Follow up: Denver Police chief opens investigation into Uber incident, issues public apology to Seattle man

denverpoliceColorado is the self-described “vanguard” of innovation. But that’s not really how it felt to me on Friday after the Denver police stopped the UberX I was riding in. Here’s the full story, with all of the bizarre twists and turns.

On Friday afternoon, I selected Uber to transport me from a meeting in downtown Denver to the airport. The Uber driver was on time, the car was clean, and I was offered a fresh bottle of water (It was pushing 95 degrees).

Within one mile of the airport, we were pulled over by the Denver Police. Two large SUVs were working in tandem to “radar” drivers — the standard speed-trap ploy.

My Uber driver was tagged and we were pulled over. There was no mention of speeding when the officer approached. The officer, who didn’t identify himself immediately, asked for the Uber driver’s license, registration and insurance (The driver had all of that). The officer then opened the backseat door where I was sitting and asked if I was paying for the ride.

I said what do you mean?

He asked again: Are you paying to have this person drive you to the airport?

I said yes. He then asked me how much I was being charged. I said I didn’t know the exact amount because I hadn’t reached the destination yet. He pushed the issue about the cost and then asked if this was an Uber ride. Both the driver and I said yes. Then the officer asked again how much the driver was charging me. I said the estimate was somewhere in the $35 to $45 range.

The officer then told us that “he was going to educate us on Colorado law today.” Uber was illegal in the state, he said.

The officer then left with the driver’s information.

I immediately started to research what the law was on my iPhone. I discovered an article written by Andy Vuong of The Denver Post from last month titled “Colorado First to Authorize Lyft and Uber’s Ridesharing Services.”

Gov. John Hickenlooper
Gov. John Hickenlooper

Governor John Hickenlooper was obviously proud of the new law, saying at the time that: ”Colorado is once again in the vanguard in promoting innovation and competition while protecting consumers and public safety.”

The officer then returned and asked the driver whether he had commercial insurance, or a cabbies license. The driver said that he had a cabbie license and gave it to the officer. The officer asked if the car was a licensed cab, or a personal vehicle. The driver said that the car was a personal vehicle and that he was an Uber driver. (This was pretty impressive to me because English was the driver’s second language).

The officer then asked for my license (which seemed odd, uncomfortable and totally inappropriate). The officer returned to his SUV with the lights flashing. (For perspective, both vehicles were pulled over on the left side of an offramp in a recently graded dirt area. This seemed precarious to me, but this is where the officer told the driver to pull over, using his in-vehicle megaphone).

It was about this time that I started to get concerned about my own status. Why? The officer said that Uber was illegal and what the driver and I were doing was against the law.

I then called The Denver Post to speak with anyone in the newsroom about their article. A city desk editor by the name of Francie answered my call.

I explained the situation to her: I was from Seattle. I was trying to get home via the Denver airport. I was in an Uber vehicle, currently pulled over by the Denver Police, with an officer who was telling us that Uber was outlawed.

I asked Francie to verify the law status in the Post’s June 5th news article. She verified that the law had passed. However, she then asked me what I wanted her to do.

A portion of the citation issued by the Denver police to an Uber driver.
A portion of the citation issued by the Denver police to an Uber driver.

I said: (1) either something was inaccurate in her article and I wanted her to do a correction, (2) the officer had a complete misunderstanding of the law or (3) if the article was true, I wanted her to be aware that I had no idea what the officer was attempting to do with my I.D. Was he going to take me to jail, was he trying to scare me, or was it something else? If I was going to go to jail, I figured The Denver Post might want to know about it.

I could see the headline now: “Seattle man arrested for taking Uber to the Denver airport.”

The officer returned to the car, and gave the driver a citation for speeding. He never once mentioned that, and I’m not sure whether he was exceeding the speed limit or not.

After the officer gave the citation, he opened the back door again and offered me a “free” ride to the airport. I told him that I had learned while he was gone that the state had just enacted a law allowing Uber. In fact, I referenced that the Governor was proud of it.

I then asked point blank if what I was doing was illegal. The officer didn’t answer my question, said there was some sort of disagreement being discussed about the law and then he told me that the driver had no commercial insurance and that if he got in a wreck and I got injured that there would be no insurance.

He asked again: Do you want the “free” ride or not?

I asked him one more time if what I was doing was illegal. He said he didn’t want to debate the law.

Again, he asked: Do you want the ride or not?

uber-logoI can’t remember if I said anything at this time. I certainly didn’t accept his offer, nor did I say no. I just wanted to understand the issue. He then threw my drivers license at me and said suit yourself. He shut the door, returned to his vehicle, turned off the lights, drove through the dirt median area and took off.

Your brain has to make instinctive decisions when stressed or threatened. I feel that I made the right decision, even now that I’ve had a few hours to decompress.

Did I really want to take a ride from an individual who clearly lied to me, then was evasive when I asked one basic question?

Believe me, this is not an easy thing to do when we are taught as youngsters to respect authority, the uniform, the badge, the gun (which was clearly visible in his holster).

I’m proud of my decision. I’m proud of my Uber driver (he was very professional, honest and calm).

The only thing the Uber driver was upset about once we continued our journey was that the officer had driven away before giving us clear and protected access back onto the busy road where he had instructed the driver to pull over.

So, in hindsight, who had my personal safety and interest in mind? The Uber driver.

Dave Cook
Dave Cook

And here’s the final irony.

When I arrived in Denver the day before, I took a “certified” yellow cab to my hotel. That cabbie was driving while talking on the phone, had an earpiece in his ear and a GPS unit on the dashboard. As a result, he ran a stop sign and we almost were T-boned by a large pickup truck.

I was charged over $60 for that trip. The Uber trip? $37.44.

I don’t look forward to returning to Denver, but when I do, I’m taking Uber.

Seattle resident and geologist Dave Cook is the brother of GeekWire co-founder John Cook.

Update, July 21: Denver Police spokesperson Sonny Jackson told GeekWire that the department has no information to provide related to this incident and is currently investigating. We’ll post their response once it becomes available.

Update, July 21 at 4 p.m.: Denver Police chief opens investigation into Uber incident, issues public apology to Seattle man

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Comments

  • http://stevebanfield.net Steve Banfield

    I took an Uber town car from DIA into Denver recently when we were pulled over.The officer claimed the driver had been driving in the left lane when not passing, which is apparently against the law in CO. The driver handled it ok but was pretty shaken about the “points” on his license, costs of insurance and losing his Uber status. The officer never spoke to me during the stop but after reading this article I wonder if law enforcement is targeting services outside standard taxis for enforcement/harassment.

    • david reeves

      That’s against the law in washington as well, and is apparently getting more enforcement:

      http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/washington-state-police-bust-left-lane-squatters

      • Giul Xainx

        The left lanes are for generally faster traffic. They don’t just pull over Uber drivers for this. They are beginning to do it for everyone on the road. If you drive slow in the fast lane it means a ticket.

        • John

          The left lane is called the PASSING lane, not the FAST lane. The passing lane is for passing only. Not sure why people do not know this and get it confused with some mythical fast lane.

          • Engar

            Perhaps because in many places there are signs that say, “slower traffic keep right”. Perhaps your practical understanding needs a mythical upgrade :-).

          • Oingo Boingo

            With all due respect, slower traffic usually keep right usually means “Any vehicle travelling at less than the normal speed of travel should drive in the right-hand lane” How did you come to the conclusion that this has something to do with the use of left lane?.

          • Desirsar

            Sounds like a good idea, until they realize they also will need a “make room to allow onramp traffic in” law. If every car on the interstate is crammed into just one lane, there will never be room to merge on.

        • Is He….

          Dog the bounty hunter got pulled over like 6 times in 3 days in Montrose CO its been an issue for a while

        • CanineCo

          If there’s room to the right, move to the right. e.g. “Stay right except to pass.”

        • tryingtocalmdown

          if this is actually being enforced in WA state, I’d be shocked. the wsp’s version of “law enforcement” is some guy with a radar gun pointing at left lane speeders. but do they enforce the cell phone driving or texting laws? not that i’ve seen.

      • RamonaSmith

        This reminds me of the time Denver Police tried to restrain a streaker which was running through the Denver Zoo.

        Denver Police dispatched 10-15 officers to retrain the 29-year old streaker, who was tazed 10+ so many times, he died. Denver seems to hire bullies.

        Denver Police have a lot of hiring issues; and I say this as the son of an officer in a neighboring county… My father designed the hiring processes… Many people who fail the background checks will be considered to be hired in Denver County instead. I have other law enforcement officers in the family.. Growing up, my father said “Stay out of Denver”.

        Everyone who works for Denver Police Department wants to be in the news. Only in Denver can a gang of 10 white police officers kill a man, and not one officer is disciplined. It all starts in traffic enforcement

        Good reporting, Dave.

        • Guest

          The 29 year old streaker was high on drugs, and combative with other patrons, security and law enforcement. Please educate yourself on the entire case.

          • ExPat ExLawyer

            Please reveal your LE agency and badge number.

        • CanineCo

          TASERs will not, in and of themselves, cause a person to die. Must have been something else going on here.

          • Paul Passarelli

            @CanincCo, Bullshit! TASERS are POTENTIALLY LETHAL in every deployment. While a teser is not as obviously and overtly destructive to organs & tissues as a hollow-point round, the effect it to overload and disrupt electrical pathways to the bulk of the person’s muscles. If that muscle bulk happens to include the heart, then death it likely to follow.

            @RamonaSmith, I would add that if a suspect’s taser count is >1 then there is ample grounds for an *external* investigation into the officers’h conduct.

    • Braden

      I’m okay with police pulling cars over for driving in the left lane and not passing anyone. Nothing infuriates me more than slow drivers in the fast lane.

      • Caption Oblivious

        should they get body cavity searches like in new mexico and texas?

        usa is a police state.

        • Nerdsamwich

          If that were really true, would you be able to say that without fear of arrest?

          • http://GrowMap.com Gail Gardner

            It is true, and we are all subject to arrest or disappearance. The information is widely available online. More should realize this by now.

          • American Patriot

            Which is why the people have the right to self defense.
            A cop never ‘deserves’ the right to abuse or kill without being absolutely justified, and when this justification can not be supported by fact, and you are under imminent threat by that cop, by his actions or demeanor, then you DO have the RIGHT to use whatever force YOU need to use, to STOP such an assault from taking place!
            Cops do not have the right to be safe or free from retribution when their acts are criminal, they DO have ht e ‘right’ to be shot!
            A badge does NOT validate terrorism!

          • RC

            I agree – if a cop shoots and kills you, you should be able to take them to court!

          • JESS K

            especially if they “kill you” I would drag their ass into court!

          • RJ

            How did this go from a traffic stop to getting a beat down by a cop in a police state? There are laws; you follow the laws you will be fine. You break the laws you will eventually get stopped. There isn’t anything on an Uber ride that indicates it is doing so – no light on top no P.U.C. number on the side, the only thing that will get the cop’s attention is the bad driving.

          • MPH

            You’ve obviously missed all the articles in which a cop arrested/abused/killed a private citizen who had broken no law, and then was “punished” by being given a paid vacation (paid administrative leave). When they do get a real punishment, it’s usually because they were video recorded by someone (usually via cell phone), which is why the cops still arrest people recording them and destroy their phone (destroying evidence of their crime), despite the fact that the US Supreme Court has ruled that it is ALWAYS legal to video record a public servant doing their job in public.

          • ExPat ExLawyer

            Article was about the cops arrogant attitude about educating people about the law when he knew zilch.

          • Garrison

            But he’s not saying that without fear of arrest. He could very well be tracked down and arrested for posting it here. It happens every day, whether you choose to notice it or not.

          • Bennett Willis

            Bull!

          • JESS K

            There ARE INDEED arrest made everyday in the USA, and more countries, of things posted on FB, Twitter and other social media. One cannot commit a crime, then brag about it on the net without being caught!

          • Caption Oblivious

            tell that to the man billed 6k after multiple anal probes turned up no drugs. This happens all the time. In texas they like to chef four orifices without changing gloves in plain sight on the side of the road.

            Do you support that?

            amerika is a police state. you have drank too much kool aide….

          • American Patriot

            Some Nazi will ONLY do this ONCE!
            And even then, the attempt IS a guaranteed trip to the morgue for the badge-carrying terrorist!

          • James Millsaps

            You’ll take your anal probe and like it citizen, else you’ll be shot for ‘resisting arrest’. ;-)

          • http://bit.ly/glUAR7 Calladus

            America is becoming a police state.

            Yes, I fear for my freedom from saying that. But what is the alternative? To stay silent?

          • American Patriot

            If they assault, they DIE, it IS as SIMPLE as that!
            My rights are NEVER under the dictates of a damned EMPLOYEE!!
            Cops are nothing more than PROPERTY!
            Being hired does NOT grant you ‘god’ status.
            To be precise, cops are actually employed property.
            No different than a soldier that joins the military. You sign on the line, you BECOME the property of the military, there is NO difference, these ‘cops’ are PROPERTY!

          • Nerdsamwich

            You, sir, are a big part of the reason that police in this once-great nation are going off the rails.

          • Barzuma

            Most Americans get their idea of what a “police state” is from TV and movies. As another poster in another article stated, life in a police state is actually almost like a normal life in the US. Except you don’t go near anything political. You can write a letter of complaint to the local newspaper, and you wouldn’t be arrested. But if that letter contains harsh criticism, then you might get a visit from the local constabulary. Who decides whether it’s harsh or not? The local constabulary, of course.

            BTW, in the US, if you participate in a Pro-Palestinian public gathering, you might get a visit from the local branch of the FBI. If you participate in a pro-environment public gathering, you might get a visit from the local branch of the FBI. If you “frequently” meet with a friend who happens to be Muslim, you might get a visit from the local branch of the FBI

        • Nekrod

          They should get the hell out of the way. I honestly do not care about what happens to someone who clogs MILES of highway because they are too stupid or dont care to pass a car going the same speed as them, should they get a cavity search yes. Who does something like that? Let’s really find out. USA is a police state but I think we can at least be glad when cops help uncongest the highways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjtQKND4W8

          • Caption Oblivious
          • Nekrod

            Yes, those cops were fired, probably worse. Do you even read bro. No you just start fixating on me being loved in a fema camp. Do yourself a favor and stay in school.

          • Caption Oblivious

            fired after collecting years of pay for not working and having their po.lice department defend their actions. only public outrage got them canned.

          • guest

            It’s for safety right? Because people like you dangerously tailgate others as a signal to someone traveling 5 miles over the speed limit to move over. Because it’s safe to travel 20 miles over the limit, right? Yeah. Right.

          • Nekrod

            Disgusting how you attack people. You attack how I drive? How old are you? Have you never seen highways come to a stand still because people like YOU are too ignorant to blame yourself. You have no basis for anything you say. I do not tailgate people, the fact you are trying to make me defend myself speaks plenty for your lack of respect on and off the road. Thank YOU GUEST.

          • guest

            My basis for this behavior description comes from observation and the video you posted. That officer is tailgating and the person in front of the officer is traveling with the flow of traffic. People are driving in a staggered, uniform, formation to travel in a more safe fashion or because they fear being pulled over for speed.

            What is interesting to me is how you admit in your second sentence my description of your driving is accurate, by writing “You attack how I drive?”, but then refute my description. Why else would you sound angry in your post instead of merely stating you don’t advocate driving in that manner?

            One can characterize the manner in which those who road rage over someone in lane 1 (not designated the “fast lane” actually) driving near the speed limit as disrespectful of other drivers.

            There is a reason for speed limits. They are not arbitrary. An engineering survey is required to set them by Federal regulation and State law where I am located. There are reasons of safety one should move to lane 1 on a two lane highway. Tow truckers and other workers at the side of the road being one.

            You’re of course free to think of others as you wish.

          • throwupbreath

            I don’t think you get it. The driver was in the left lane and not passing anybody, which is illegal in many states. The officer did his/her job for once and I commend them.

          • Nekrod

            Your dribble is not worth even skimming. I am free to think what I want? There are laws for a reason? You clearly went out of your way to emphasize the fact that I think we should all go 20 mph over the speed limit. Get ahold of yourself, stop trying to impress on others your insane rational. Asinine.

          • guest

            You act like a punk on the internet with little or no respect for others on the road or off. An attitude demonstrated by your comments. The way you talk, people in your way could die and you don’t care. Sounds respectful.

            When you get a cavity search because an officer feels like it that day, make sure to thank the officer for it.

            Maybe the taxpayers should build roads especially for you no else can use. Better yet…. I think you would be happier if everyone moved to lanes 3 and 4 of a four lane freeway and we all reserve lanes 1 and 2 for you when you’re traveling. Because it’s all about you and what you want, and to hell with everyone else trying to commute as fast and safely as they can without a ticket.

            You think everyone should drive 20 mph over the speed limit? That’s what it reads like. Not what I was saying, but it doesn’t matter. Whatever.

            I’m not writing to impress anyone, nor do I have the need.

            Btw, how is it you get pissed at someone for criticizing your driving while you criticize how others drive?

            And yeah, there is a reason for traffic laws, but why waste my breath on you.

          • Nekrod

            Because you NEVER CARED TO READ MY POST. You chose to just go crazy flaming me writing this huge response stating over and over again how I am bad and I am in the wrong for how I am talking. Jesus dude,I was thoroughly confused as to who you were even talking to but this is in reply to me. Wow, I bet it’s little kids that don’t even have a license ranting like this(im not even gonna read it, im not even trying to impress anyone)*puke. Thank you GUEST. ;) always a pleasure!

          • Mark In Colorado

            It is about safety, not the speed limit. Roads rely on an orderly flow of traffic. The number 1 passing lane is just that, the passing lane. If you have traffic moving freely, as here, no traffic jam, get out of the fast lane.
            It’s not your job to limit the other driver’s speed, but it is your job to keep things moving in an orderly fashion, that causes more accidents than speeding on an open highway.
            Let the other driver worry about the speeding ticket.

          • guest

            It’s not my intention to limit a motorist’s speed. It is my intention to travel about at the limit. I really don’t have a problem traveling in lane 2 or the lane right-most when there aren’t impediments except for when there are potholes tearing my car up.

            I’ve never heard an officer report lane 1 as a passing lane or fast lane, but whatever. Traveling these highways and freeways is never safe. One can only minimize the degree of danger.

            In my experience, people who road rage over those traveling in lane 1 at speeds slower then theirs, doesn’t matter if the slower traveler is traveling at 80 mph, rage about how the slower traveler should move over for safety while they conduct themselves in a completely unsafe and tyrannical manner.

            That is my point.

          • guest

            The speed limit is set for some uniformity to reduce the amount of danger involved on freeways, etc…

            Arguing laws for safety while breaking other laws for safety and in turn increasing the amount of danger involved doesn’t make sense to me.

            And if all are traveling at the speed limit for cars, I don’t see how another car is going to catch up to someone ahead.

          • throwupbreath

            Few things in life have I experienced more annoying then the screaming, yapping manchild in this video.

        • Burnerjack

          No one is demanding you stay. As the cops say, “You’re free to go…”

          • Caption Oblivious

            i be here til the day I day. Asserting my rights and speaking out against the POLICE STATE.

          • Nekrod

            Don’t forget to breathe.

          • Caption Oblivious

            it is physically impossible to forget to breath. try again.

          • Burnerjack

            “Asserting my rights…” Doesn’t sound like much of a police state. Google Stalinist Russia for a clarification of the term ‘Police State’. BTW, Adults act. Children whine.

          • Caption Oblivious

            did you know that the man that designed the stasi was contracted toi design USA Homeland security? yes look at soviet russian, many similarities. Spies listening on your phone, citizen spies, Government can disappear and kill citizens without due process. politicians trying to ban firearms.

        • David Kaye

          The us is a police country – still trying to play cops to the world. Don’t believe me – why are they telling other countries they can’t have nuclear weapons when the us has enough stockpiled to destroy the planet ; ala deathstar style !

          • Caption Oblivious

            [ know. this is ussa.

      • Stephan B. Feibish

        No one infuriates German drivers more than slow drivers in the fast lane!

        • david martin

          Drive right,
          Pass left.

        • American Patriot

          Flash those high beams!

          • Bennett Willis

            The Germans quickly train you. Nothing like a car overtaking you at 140mph while flashing its lights to make an impression.

          • Mark in Colorado

            Agreed! And they have real high beams, they flash you from a click away and you know they are coming. They also have little of the DUI issue we have and are respectful of other drivers, they get over when someone comes up behind them.

        • tionico

          but there are no speed limits on the Autobahn…. so some traffic is almost always faster than others. Here in the USS of A, there are posted limits nearly everywhere, and anyone caught travelling at a speed above those limits is subject to an encounter with the local revenooers. Some states deliberately post unreasonably low limits to enhance their revenue stream, Sick, but true.. SO.. if someone is travelling in the far left lane at five over posted, he is at risk of “contact” by the armed authorities who will extract revenue from him. When ALL drivers are travelling at the same speed, both lanes, and five over, why stress over one of the two dozen cars in the left lane? Now, if there is a quarter mile of clear road ahead of the “slowpoke”, yes… but in most of those cases it is a simple matter of passing on the right and getting on with your business. Live is too short to hyperventilate. Besides, this article is about a standard taxi service alternative, and Denver PD’s harassment of this service.

      • pirateapproved

        Slow drivers should be arrested! Throw them in jail!

      • ax123man

        Your confused. That’s ok. The problem is that laws like this give officers a excuse to target people. You don’t want laws regarding issues that “annoy” you, trust me. You’ll eventually learn this.

      • LibertyRising

        Nothing infuriates me more than idiots who don’t realize that giving the criminals, er, state, the power to criminalize your petty grievances will come back to bite you when you violate some other idiot’s petty grievance.

      • tionico

        if the left lane car is travelling at the speed limit, there is no issue…. its just another way to collect revenue, and sick.

        • William Andrus

          If you’re traveling in the left lane going the speed limit; then you’re going too slow. At least go 10+

    • BrandonLive

      Being in the passing lane while not passing is illegal most places. It’s dangerous and impedes the flow of traffic. Sadly, not regularly enforced in most of the US.

      • truthify

        Interesting… so they don’t mind if you exceed the limit in order to get past a few cars then?

        • Nekrod

          98% of the time that is the case in any of the states I have traveled. Hell you can be going through construction with concrete walls inches from either side of your car, going 10 over with a cop riding your butt, but that was in Chicago, the law is subjective here until you get a cop who tells you otherwise cause it’s obviously unsafe unless he/she says so.

        • Scott Henkle

          They mind you exceeding the speed limit, but going slow in the fast lane is the easiest way to incite road rage amongst drivers.
          Hense why it’s illegal in most states even if you’re going the speed limit.
          If you aren’t passing anyone, get in the right hand lane.

    • pitbullstew

      yeah every police officer is pulling every one over in order to discover uber and lyft drivers, yup, okey dokey, uh huh.

      uber and lyft drivers are so used to breaking the law when they get behind the wheel they break even more of them and some how its the poilce who are up to no good?

      puleeeezzzz?

      rookie amatuer new guy drivers posing like they commercial for hire livery drivers with absolutely no commerical insurance are some how exempt from the rules of the road that every one else is required ro obey because they are uber lyft drivers?

      rocky mountain high again huh?

      • Garrison

        Where did you get your information? Every report and summary I’ve seen about Uber and/or Lyft drivers notes how excellent, clean, and safe their records are. Where did you get your information? I suspect you’re just making it up to try and look important.

      • Some Guy

        Go fuck yourself, you cabbie shill. I’ll keep using Uber and Lyft, and you rent-seeking assholes can go pound sand up your asses. If cabs didn’t suck so bad, Uber never would have existed.

      • Anthony Chudnosfsky

        you eat dog? you sick redneck fuck.

      • Lee

        Lyft cars have a gigantic pink mustache on the front. UberX and Uber cars have a big placard with a big white ‘U’ on the bottom right hand side of the windshield. You don’t have to pull them over to discover this. You can profile both fairly easily from the shoulder of the road and pull any and all Lyft and Uber drivers over as you see fit.

      • singingcowboy674

        Cab driver by chance?

      • Surely

        Well if this post is a troll post, then I’m impressed. Otherwise it is actually comical how bad this post is. I’m not even sure there is any particular argument in here and I’ve read it three times now…

        paragraph 1: “every driver…” Wrong, so wrong.
        paragraph 2″ “used to breaking the law” As opposed to running a stop sign while talking on your phone like the taxi cab?
        paragraph 3: Ugh, what’s the point…

    • http://stevebanfield.net Steve Banfield

      I’ll reply to some of the comments. I get that it’s illegal to drive in the left lane when you’re not passing. It’s a pet peeve of mine too. I can’t argue that the driver was or wasn’t guilty of it. My point was simply wondering if there was any enhanced enforcement targeting Uber drivers coming to or from DIA given the author of the article’s experience.

      • apache501

        It’s because uber and lyft drivers were failures as cab drivers. Probably because they drove recklessly.

      • alvinmullins

        Obviously there was otherwise how did the cop know it was an Uber car?

    • alvinmullins

      I’m actually ok with that enforcement. Slow drivers in the left lane are the bane of drivers everywhere.

      • singingcowboy674

        But he was given a ticket for speeding. And the officer did NOT act like an officer. A free ride to the airport in a police car when you are not under arrest?

        • alvinmullins

          I was actually talking about enforcement of not passing in the left lane not the subject of the article.

          • singingcowboy674

            Oh! :) Sorry. lol For the record regarding the story itself I think the “cops” weren’t cops at all. Wig wags, gun and badge not withstanding. Officers of the law have to behave in a certain manner in a traffic stop and this guy was just plain creepy. DPD doesn’t offer free rides to the public. Risk to the department if the cop did anything to injure him such as an at fault accident, as well it takes the cop off the beat where he can’t respond to a signal if it comes in because he can’t pursue with a passenger. Just stinks of impersonation.

          • alvinmullins

            I have no doubt he was a cop. He was clearly on the look out for this Uber driver since he knew what he was without asking. My guess is someone higher up is getting bought off by the taxi companies and using the cops as an enforcer.

          • singingcowboy674

            Good point. Didn’t really think of it that way. Most likely scenario though. Kudos.

    • coip

      “the driver had been driving in the left lane when not passing, which is apparently against the law in CO”. That’s pretty much the law everywhere and the world would be a much better place if people actually followed it, which will only happen if cops enforce it. I fully support every ‘left-lane camper’ getting pulled over and cited for disrupting the flow of traffic.

    • Felicia Crabb

      While it is against the law to drive in left lane while not passing here, I have NEVER seen anyone get pulled over for it. Yours is the 1st story I’ve heard of the charge. I too think maybe there is targeting.

    • Fullname J Warrington

      Yay cronyism!

    • Cup_of_STFU

      It’s a class B traffic infraction and does not assess any points on one’s license, and is only a $35 fine. But I’m glad that your driver got pulled over as cabbies disobeying the left lane law is the #1 traffic problem on peña boulevard. People either need to speed up and pass, or get the fuck out of the way. If the speed limit is 65mph or higher, you must be actively passing.

  • geekfan

    I just want to mention, Uber and Lyft drivers also talk on their earpieces, have a GPS mounted, and quite frankly, some do text/use their phone as they drive. I understand the confusion, but this is a very bad example of labeling all yellow cabbies as “bad service”. But then again, your opinion, so whatever.

    • Mason Mack

      Way to completely miss the point. You stated exactly what he stated as an argument to his point. Congratulations.

      • geekfan

        Mason,

        The article concludes with objectifying Yellow Cabbies as ultimately “expensive” and unreliable, versus Uber. As per your comment, you completely missed my point. Cogradulaions. Now go take another selfie.

        • totalitat

          No, the article ends by pointing out that the officially authorized cabbies don’t have any monopoly of virtue, and certainly aren’t uniformly better than the Uber drivers. The rest you’re reading into the story.

        • leftoversright

          And you can take some spelling classes.

          • rightoverleft

            Please, explain where the user has to clarify his grammar in the posts. Mr. Judgmental.

          • Dylan

            Nowhere, I have the right to be as judgmental as I please.

        • leftoversright

          No, he was just comparing his rides to and from the airport.

        • Dylan

          1) You spelled congratulations wrong, despite the spelling being clearly in front of you. Way to go. Call that ad hominem, but I really can’t respect anything that you say after pulling that off.
          2) The author’s example was merely that, an example. All subjectivity inherent in such an anecdote is still there.

          • Nalyd

            1. Unless he was typing a paper on saving the world from aliens, there could be numerous reasons as per why the user misspelled few words (autocorrect, mobile, etc…)

            2. If the author’s example was “an example” then the users observation was just “an observation towards the authors example.

            Stop trying to start a rift and go troll elsewhere.

    • Jamie Z

      If your Lyft or Uber driver does these things while driving, I encourage you to rate the driver accordingly at the end of the ride and leave a comment detailing the behavior. Talking and texting while driving are prohibited by Uber and Lyft and you have the power to report this.

  • Michael47

    Uber legal or not? Read more here http://www.stopuber.com

    • Rezeya Montecore

      Hello Mister Taxi Lobbyist! Thank you for sharing that doubtless totally unbiased and astroturf-free site with us! I am sure you’re posting this out of the goodness of your heart, with no ulterior motives!

      EDIT: Fascinating. Every single solitary one of your comments seems to be a link to stopuber. If I didn’t know you so well, Michael, I’d almost guess you were a spam account. Speaking of which, Michael, I noticed something fascinating: if you follow your account info, it leads to a Facebook page that says your name is Sal. Isn’t that interesting, Michael?

      We like Uber. And personally, I find the taxi business incredibly corrupt, sketchy, and unreliable. So maybe you should just leave quietly, because these tactics do NOT help your cause one bit, Michael Sal.

      • laughtiger

        You obviously did not read the site, its run by Uber and cab drivers trying to organize.

        As for the “taxi lobby”, the single biggest force in the taxi lobby is Uber, being the biggest cab company in the world.

        • Mark57379

          No it is not, did you read the about us page?

          “About Us
          This site is dedicated to the hard working taxi driver’s around the globe. Help us save the taxi industry…”

          • American Patriot

            If a driver picks you up, delivers you to your destination, does this not fall under the identical classification of a ‘taxi’?
            So the cars are not yellow, the end product or service is the same, and usually far cheaper.
            A taxi is a taxi, and the color of the car is of no concern when the services are the same as well… TAXI!!

          • laughtiger

            I did not mean the site is run by Uber, it is run by cabdrivers trying to organize, including Uber drivers from what they indicate on the website.
            Uber and companies like it are screwing over drivers so badly they have in fact pumped some life back into the taxi driving labor movement.

      • Howie Cohen

        I did enjoy Michael/Sal’s Facebook profile photo stolen from a malemodelsinsuits blog ;)

      • leftoversright

        Be careful, Sal/Michael will hunt you down and break your knee caps.

      • American Patriot

        Oh come on now, we now realize the spammer is French, and Sal is hist first name!
        Sal Michael.. Nes Pas?
        Par les vous poo poo?

    • UberTaxiCabz

      Go to hell.

      • John Dillon

        Classy. Brilliant discourse.

  • aurorabo

    “I don’t look forward to returning to Denver,”

    That’s good we don’t need no more yuppie hipsters here

    • http://blog.findwell.com Kevin Lisota

      Dave Cook as a yuppy hipster? Funniest comment on GeekWire in awhile!

      • Caption Oblivious

        read the constitution. it will help you handle an illegal; traffic stop better. you should have recorded the encounter as well.

        • dx loat

          Not in Illinois you can’t, recording a police officer is illegal.

          • Caption Oblivious

            that has been defeated in superior court repeatedly you have ever right to tape a public servant doing their job in public..

          • dx loat

            I did not know it had changed, thank you.

          • Winston

            Actually, you can in Illinois. Make sure you know what you’re talking about before you post.

          • Final_Word

            dx loat, educate yourself.

          • American Patriot

            Federal courts already ruled: It is LEGAL, and it is constitutionally PROTECTED, the state can NOT arrest for videotaping any cop actions.

    • BuckMulligan

      Did you see Dave’s photo? Certainly not a “yuppie hipster”, whatever that is (people with jobs?).

    • Uber4lyfe

      Taxi lobbyist.

    • Rhiaden

      Geologists are yuppies?

    • Ian

      I’m ashamed to share a state with you.

    • Mark57379

      HAHA

  • Mason Mack

    Why did you not get the officer’s badge number or vehicle information and then immediately report him to his superiors? In the very least, you should still report the incident to the local police and ask very politely to NOT be harassed when and if you ever visit again. I’d also contact Uber or the governor to bring this to their attention. If a policeman can’t do his job right, someone else will.

    • mixedupfiles

      Right – the author is in a privileged position – he’s outside the jurisdiction and has a mouthpiece, and the harassed driver is (presumably) neither. In fact, he should have included the identification in the article. This article will bother people, but then it just dies, as far as any official attention to it is concerned. If it includes particulars, the force has to pay attention — either defend this officer’s actions or correct what’s its officers are doing.

    • Jay Hanig

      The driver has the cop’s name on his ticket. I think he deserves some public humiliation just for being 1) wrong and 2) a jerk.

  • Guest

    Dave, I’m sorry to hear you had such an awful experience. Welcome home to Seattle, where the only men who hate Uber are the trolls of GeekWire — and we don’t let them have a sandwich, much less a police badge.

  • sol

    this is totally unacceptable! totally!!
    uber should go ahead and launch its next service – the copx.
    What is a police officer realy? just a man/woman with a gun and handcuffs. Copx will be faster cheaper and more convenient. You can see in real time where your cop is on your smartphone. It will be futile to resist it like uber ceo adviced. If you can afford copBlack, you get a gym trainer or ex military with a weapon and handcuffs. Police officers can do this in their personal cars too. Lets go, the revolution is here.

  • laughtiger

    “Did I really want to take a ride from an individual who clearly lied to me, then was evasive when I asked one basic question?”

    Here’s the thing — that pretty much describes Uber’s history. They solicit business whether they have legal sanction to operate or not, and have been nothing but evasive about the insurance issue from day one. Uber is basically a corporation that will try to escape liability by any means possible so no, it is probably not a good idea to do business with them, as a driver or as a passenger.

    Kudos to the Denver police for looking out for passenger safety. You should probably have accepted the ride in the cruiser, the officer could perhaps have explained the issue to you in more depth, and your reporting here could have been more informed.

    • Courtney Karl

      Yeah, cause cops are so informed. I’m gonna hire a cop instead of a lawyer next time i go to court. I wouldn’t get in a car with a cop because I might not get out alive.

    • leftoversright

      Corporations are ‘people’ too; just ask a Republican.

      • MatTrue

        And non-profits, too. Rights aren’t lost when two or more people act in unison, contrary to what power-hungry statists (R’s and D’s) believe!

    • Leaves Deliberti

      Here’s the thing. If you went to a random city hall and asked “do I have the legal authority to do X”, then you’re going to get more answers than you know what to do with. Laws in *most* areas are under-specified, or over-specified and inconsistent. The only way to do innovative business (around the world, not just the US) is to often do it, and see what happens. That’s what Uber has done, and they’ve shown that this is a service that lots of people really like. *Obviously* the historically entrenched providers of that service will not like a competitor, and try and list all sorts of reasons why this competitor shouldn’t be allowed (no insurance, no background check [false], cabs not painted yellow [boo-hoo]).

      In the future, Uber drivers may be able to purchase insurance. Or not, and Uber drivers can use driver ratings to *bear the risk* themselves.

    • MatTrue

      “Kudos to the Denver police for looking out for passenger safety.”

      Blaaaa! Gag! This couldn’t be more glowing (and inaccurate) if the police chief wrote it himself!

      The officer threw Dave’s license back at him. If this isn’t harassment and intimidation, then I don’t know what is.

      • Justaguest

        “The officer threw Davd’s license back at him.”

        Technically it is assault, or as I’ve seen it defined by law enforcement encounters that I’ve personally seen

    • ax123man

      passenger safety! Ha Ha. Laughtiger, is it you or a relative that cabbies?

      Personally, I’m wondering what sort of accident may have occurred to this gentleman had he accepted this “free” ride.

  • http://www.athanrebelos.com/ Athan

    Uber Black is legal, Uber X is not. Uber Black utilized licensed car services with professional drivers and vehicle for hire insurance. Uber X is literally some guy in his personal car using his personal insurance policy.

    • MatTrue
      • http://www.athanrebelos.com/ Athan

        Actually you’re confirming my statement. The Uber insurance policy is contingent on the driver’s personal policy in all scenarios except when a passenger is in the vehicle. The problem is most personal policies exclude vehicles used for hire so there’s an insurance gap. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-09/uber-needs-insurance-california-regulator-jones-says.html

        • MatTrue

          That article confirms Uber has a $1 million policy during the Uber X trip. The insurance commissioner recommends what Uber is doing:

          “From the time a driver accepts a trip request through our app until the completion of the ride, our partners have $1 million of coverage for driver liability. We were also the first ridesharing request service to include $1 million of coverage for uninsured/underinsured motorists, meaning that passengers and drivers are also covered for injuries when another party is at fault and lacks sufficient insurance. This $1 million coverage from trip acceptance to drop-off is consistent across cities. ***This coverage kicks in regardless of whether the driver’s personal insurance applies to the trip.*** We have also added contingent comprehensive and collision insurance during trips, up to $50,000/incident with a $1,000 deductible.”

          • http://www.athanrebelos.com/ Athan

            I don’t understand your point. There is no for hire insurance at any time except when a passenger is on board. At all other times the car is insured as a personal vehicle and the insurance companies will usually deny the claim if the driver admits that they are using the vehicle in UberX or Lyft, etc. the reality is that most drivers flat out lie to their insurer. A car that is seeking a gps e hail is on the road more than a typical car and therefore is a higher risk to the insurer. So what really is happening is that UberX, etc. are subsidizing their enterprises on the backs of the insurers and ultimately that cost is passed on to the consumer in higher premiums. Obviously if UberX, etc. had to retain full time, primary policies like licensed for hire vehicles do their fares would be more expensive and their growth more restrained.

          • MatTrue

            My point is to refute your claim that the Uber X driver is only using his personal insurance.

            Where is your proof that “A car that is seeking a gps e hail is on the road more than a typical car and therefore is a higher risk to the insurer”? The part of that claim I take issue with is “higher risk”. One could argue that driver has more incentive to protect his car than a typical driver because it’s directly used to make money. Besides, the more points on your record, and the more accident claims, the higher your premium.

          • http://www.athanrebelos.com/ Athan

            Half of picking up paying riders is locating yourself closest to the busy areas and then driving to the passenger. Up to 70% of the time that an UberX vehicle is on the road it is operating inside this insurance gap.

            I think it goes without saying that increased exposure equals increased risk. A typical San Francisco taxi drives 98k miles annually (according to SFMTA data). A typical personal car drives less than 14k annually (http://www.quora.com/How-much-does-the-average-person-in-America-drive-each-year). A SF taxi operates 24/7/365, so it has a little more than 7x the exposure of a personal car. If an UberX car only has one full time driver it has about 3.5x the exposure of the average personal car.

          • MatTrue

            Insurance is just a gamble. You’re betting that you will end up in an accident at some point, and the insurance company is betting against you, and all others on your side of the bet. They have tools to identify cheaters, just like the casinos. You win too much, you get kicked out (or some sort of penalty). If UberX and Lyft drivers are 7x likely to end up in accidents, collectively they will demand a new exposure-adjusted “bet” with the insurance company rather than get penalized with higher premiums for each accident. And the insurers will be happy to provide it. You don’t need regulation for this to happen, as new types of insurance (bets) pop up every day.

          • http://www.athanrebelos.com/ Athan

            The entire business model for UberX, Lyft, etc. is essentially based on the drivers taking the gamble and provoking the drivers to commit insurance fraud all so that Uber, etc. acquire market share. Again, this is subsidized by the insurance companies and ultimately the consumer through higher premiums.

  • Uber Forever

    Stupid fucking cops.

    • Balmer Hon11

      Denver police = cretins.

  • http://www.feld.com bfeld

    I can’t decide what is more annoying – the behavior of the Denver policeman in this article or the trolls in the comments.

    Dave – sorry you had a stressful moment, especially within a mile of DIA. While I can’t officially apologize for bad police behavior, having experienced my own version of this, as has my wife, you handled it gracefully. Just be honest, direct, and don’t respond to the arbitrary insinuation and threats.

    My favorite line recently that got a policeman to back off from this is “I have a first amendment right to use whatever tone I want with you” in response to a policeman, clearly using threats and intimidation in a situation where he was clearly incorrect, stating “M’am – don’t use a hostile tone with me.”

    Glad you stayed cool and the Uber driver was professional.

    • Final_Word

      “I have a first amendment right to use whatever tone I want with you”
      Love it.

  • http://timandjeni.com/ Timothy Ellis

    The officer then opened the backseat door where I was sitting and asked if I was paying for the ride.

    I said what do you mean?

    He asked again: Are you paying to have this person drive you to the airport?

    I said yes.

    That’s where you (and the driver) screwed up. Never talk to the police.

    “Anything you say can be used against you…” They’re only ever looking for something to use against you, so you should always exercise your right to remain silent.

    Don’t take my word for it though. Here’s a lawyer and a cop both explaining in detail why you shouldn’t talk to the police.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

    • MatTrue

      Great video. The eye-opening reason not to talk to police is around minute 20: Cops may give you information off the record which can lead you making false or incriminating statements on the record. The video shows many other great reasons why we have this protection in the Bill of Rights.

    • Final_Word

      Exactly right.
      I understand the stressful situation but live and learn. In that case again, don’t say a word and never give up your license!

  • Michael H.

    To me it’s obvious what they are doing. By issuing him a ticket, they are not only harassing the driver in an attempt to dissuade him from driving, but if that doesn’t work, then he will eventually be booted from the service anyway. And it’s a win-win for the police, because they not only remove people they feel like removing, but also make money for their department at the same time.

    I absolutely would’ve asked for the officer’s identification information and filed a complaint with the police. I also would’ve, as a journalist, held out my phone, with the recorder running, asking if he would mind if I recorded the conversation (or, if not in a state that requires consent, I would’ve been recording).

    Many times, these officers are NOT working this way with the consent of their superiors, or if they are — and someone makes a big enough stink about it — they will back off. This story was a great way to bring that out, but I would take the official route, too.

    • Mike

      I applaud the officer for upholding the law. I walk in downtown Seattle 5 days a week and have seen numerous Uber and Lyft drivers running red lights, 3 nearly hit me while I was walking across the street in the crosswalk while the drivers nearly ran the red (one on a cell phone driving a rather large red Suburban Lyft vehicle). Honestly, just because they are a Uber or Lyft driver does not give them a free pass on obeying the law. Same goes for registered Taxi drivers who pay fees to drive like idiots.

  • Lookatthemonkeys

    Wow, everyone in these comments, and the author, are way over paranoid. The uber driver was caught speeding, and was issued a citation. Yes, from the way he worded it sounds like the officer could have been a little nicer, but the author of this article is being ridiculous claiming that 1) The officer having his emergency lights on during a traffic stop is somehow strange and 2) That the officer asking him for his ID was out of line. Case law has said that when an officer conducts a traffic stop on a vehicle, everyone in the vehicle has been “seized” and the police can ask for their ID. It is not a big deal. Why would the author even think he would go to jail for riding in a Uber car? That is ridiculous. At MOST, if the Uber driver was breaking some law, the driver would have recieved some sort of citation, but the author couldn’t really be cited for anything.

    • Caption Oblivious

      you can live on your knees. the rest of us don’t have to.

    • http://GrowMap.com Gail Gardner

      Actually, it is a big deal. When Americans can be “seized” for simply riding in a vehicle we live in a police state. If you don’t think police can and will throw you in jail what do you think “seized” means? If the passenger had declined to answer questions that is precisely what is likely to happen. If he accepted a ride he would have no control over where he was taken. Those who fail to study history are destined to repeat it. Once we were at least free to ride in a vehicle and walk without having ID demanded and being threatened with arrest or “mental evaluation”. That time is gone. Minorities once had to tolerate being ticketed for “driving while non-white”. Today we can be harassed for “walking while white”.

      • Lookatthemonkeys

        Wow, you are the perfect example of being over paranoid. It sounds like you need to read up on the law because you are a little confused. You can’t be “seized” for simply driving in a vehicle, but you can be “seized” for breaking the law or similar traffic infractions. If you do not commit a crime, you can not legally be “seized” and if you are you can sue. I say “seized” because that is the legal term refering to a “search or seizure” in the constitution. You do not have to answer questions if you don’t want to, and you can not be taken to jail for not answering questions, but you can if you actually commited a crime. As I said, at most he would recieve an infraction for whatever violation was commited (speeding or not wearing a seat belt for example). You are free to walk around without an ID, but maybe you are commiting an infraction that you are not aware of depending on your local laws. Some states have laws against jaywalking, not having proper lights on bikes, helmet, etc, and if you are in violation and get stopped you can not cry foul because you were not educated on the law.
        All that being said there are times when police can abuse their powers and illegal things do happen, that why it is important for you to be educated about your local laws and your rights, but don’t cry foul when you don’t understand them.

  • Joe Emenaker

    Okay… you’re new at this, apparently. When the officer asks if you’re paying for the ride, you say “no” because, at that precise moment, you are not handing money over for the ride. If he asks if you are *going* to pay for the ride, you *also* say no. You now have a free Uber ride. If you were to pay for the ride, then you would have lied to a police officer, so the Uber rider should waive the fee. Also, you just saved the Uber driver whatever ticket he was going to get for being an Uber, so he kind of owes you.

    • Daniel Burns

      Wrong. You don’t say anything.

      • Caption Oblivious

        other than-“i invoke and refuse to waive my 5th amendment right” repeat as necessary.

        this way it is clear should you end up in court.

        • http://GrowMap.com Gail Gardner

          Yes, you’ll be better off in court, but likely to be hauled off to jail and arrested. Lose/lose.

          • Caption Oblivious

            ive never lost in court. Im not afraid to assert my rights.

            Id rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

          • rapier1

            Spend a lot of time in court then?

          • Caption Oblivious

            i never pay a ticket. I always challenge it in court. if everyone goes to court the tickets become unprofitable.

          • Final_Word

            I’ve never been arrested for refusing to answer cops’ questions. They get annoyed as hell but ultimately they know that you’re right.

  • Rick Bowden

    Wow. Life is pretty easy in the U.S. that you chose to write this. Sounds like a truly harrowing experience by the jackbooted authority (note my sarcasm). You are making so much out of nothing and spinning up conspiracy stories about something that didn’t happen. Police asked you some questions to determine if driver was commercial, asked for Iyour ID, kindly offered you a ride, the end. Only in your mind are the great conspiracies. I can’t believe you thought the journalist would think your “plight” was newsworthy. Man, is American man really this mushy?

    • ericwilson

      Frustrating experience. If you want some raw examples of police harrassment, read Matt Taibbi’s book, “Divide.” You will be able to relate to the guy who was arrested for standing on a sidewalk in front of his apartment building.

      Denver (and Colorado) is a great place. I hope your future visits are less eventful.

    • http://GrowMap.com Gail Gardner

      Go to YouTube. Search for police brutality. You’ll see why Americans who used to have little fear of authority are now very cautious – at least the ones who are willing to see the truth about what has happened here.

  • Jackalope Wilson

    Regarding the last sentence, do you really think it’s fair to judge an entire city on a couple of asshole cops and a crappy taxi driver (obviously both phenomena unique to Denver)? Was your entire Denver experience really that bad because of your ride to the airport? I understand the hyperbolic point you’re trying to make, but from a fellow writer’s perspective you could have ended this article in a much more effective/interesting way.
    Anyway, the cops clearly handled this in a shitty way, though if it’s true that these people don’t have commercial car insurance it seems kinda dumb to get into one of their vehicles.
    Whatever. I’m not hip enough to have a smartphone, so I guess I don’t have to worry about this…

    • Leornard

      The cops did what they were supposed to do in a traffic stop. Ask questions to see if there is more to the driver or occupants. So they didn’t kiss the passenger’s ass. They didn’t harm him either, unless he was so offended that the cop challenged the legality of Uber but didn’t push it. I can’t believe we are so quick to punish police when they don’t treat us like we’re royalty. How did we become so sensitive and entitled?

      • Lee

        The goal of all traffic stops is to escalate the traffic stop to a drug case. FACT

  • Leonard

    This is such a non-story. So what, the cop asked about the drivers status. Wrote a ticket and moved on. Please stop the conspiracies.

  • gryntelyder

    Did you get the name and badge number of the police officer? Did you contact the police department for a statement later? Did you try to inform the governor’s office?

    • Ejbadger

      The Name and badge number are on the ticket pictured

  • Larry Best

    Drivers share their stories and experience driving Uber at this independently created forum – http://uberpeople.net

  • Daniel Burns

    Dave, it’s best to not answer police questions. Just a polite, “Sorry officer, but I don’t answer questions.” is best. Your lawyer will thank you.

  • http://www.linkedin.com/in/petersaal Peter Saal

    If you have the officer’s name and/or badge number, his behavior definitely needs to be reported, and the officer disciplined if he violated any rules governing his actions. Denver is better than this.

  • Caption Oblivious

    AUTHOR:

    when asked if you were paying for the ride the correct response is and always shall be —“I ENVOKE AND REFUSE TO WAIVE MY 5TH AMENDMENT RIGHT”.

    When asked to present ID while not driving the response is ” AM I SUSPECTED OF A CRIME. IF SO WHAT CRIME / STATUTE IS APPLICABLE?”. Nicely explain that you don’t consent to a consensual encounter. If they do make the claim they are “investigating” you, simply tell them that you don’t answer questions without an attorney.

    THE US CONSTITUTION

    they likely have an app for that….

  • nhirsch

    nice article. well written. should have got the police officer’s name/badge though IMO and know your rights so you don’t comply with requests that are not legal.

  • John Sloup

    Welcome to Denver, great city, but are police are thug criminals, just do a Google search, “denver police beating” and enjoy the horrible brutality that is the Denver Police Police.

  • pitbullstew

    the only people who are lying are both uber and lyft, at every given opprtunity in every council meeting I have watched and listened to this past year, it is amazing to see.

    • MatTrue

      And what exactly are they lying about? Seeing that you have watched/listened to “every council meeting”, you must have a dog in this fight.

  • Lawrence Lam

    Denver police have a Twitter account: https://twitter.com/denverpolice

  • Mancave Heywood

    Just another reason for people to stand up against this corrupt system and the NAZI PIGS that they use to enforce it!

  • http://www.libertariannews.org/ Michael Suede

    I’d like to know how the cop knew this guy was an Uber driver, seemingly before they were ever pulled over. Were they monitoring the communications of registered Uber drivers with Stingray devices? How did the cop know to even ask that question?

  • Ryan Jones

    So…are you libertarian yet?

  • Colorado for life

    Yep good ol denver pd. at least he didn’t shoot your dog, or punch you in the face or throw you in jail for no reason just to let you go 24 hours later then drop whatever charges he said he was going to put on you. I’m surprised you got away without him sticking a finger in your ass.

  • Sasha

    But the police are there to serve and protect you, don’t you know that?

  • joe

    Actually, this guy may be alive today because he refused the free ride. People have disappeared after being pulled over by the local police.

  • hb

    Denver has a recent history of claiming to be an “innovation hub” and then doing the opposite with strong-armed “gotcha” enforcement tactics: http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_26006092/denvers-tax-web-and-app-development-draws-ire

    We’ve recently hit the brakes on an office expansion into Denver as a result.

  • https://plus.google.com/112767041460502214504 Greg Miernicki

    Some cops are just ASSHOLES.

  • Sensia

    This is the problem with the US. We are a Nation of way too many laws. We incarcerate way too many people for the littlest of things now. Why on earth would we want to arrest people now for driving in the left lane? I know people are impatient but geez, and now we are harassing uber drivers? C’mon folks! Enough already.

  • John Dillon

    What a whiny article. Much ado about nothing.. Uber driver got speeding ticket. Passenger was offered free ride to airport by police.
    Much ado about nothing

  • Mephistophiles

    Pigs…I wouldn’t piss on one if it was on fire.

  • Convergence87

    Ahh yes america where the police love corruption and supporting it for their kickbacks.

  • http://startuplawblog.com/joewallin Joe Wallin

    We really need to repeal most of the law in this country.

    • MatTrue

      Or just cap it. For every new law, some outdated law needs to be repealed. What is now referred to as a Regulatory Budget: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2010/12/setting-a-regulatory-budget/67981/

    • russroberts

      The beauty and the curse of a governmental system that makes passing laws so difficult is that it makes repealing them just as difficult. I agree – we really need to repeal most of the laws in this country.

      • http://startuplawblog.com/joewallin Joe Wallin

        Russ, yeah, there is definitely beauty in our system of government. We have managed to have a system of government that has worked pretty well, actually, But it seems to me that it is a heck of a lot easier get laws on the books than it is to repeal them.

  • A consumer

    Interesting article… People fighting the innovative service that uber provides are only working for the mighty machine.
    I had a taxi driver tell me the other day how a uber driver raped a woman in Seattle, sad If real… However, I turned both of his examples around and suggested that it’s possible that cabbies have also been guilty of crimes as well, he had pause. Only regurgitation from the owners of the companies. I’ve had both good and bad drivers with taxis. They should be thankful for uber as it has reduced the amount that the companies can rent a taxi to them per day(per a driver conversation ) .

    • Bigfoot Steve

      Cabbies HAVE been guilty of crimes, lol. One NY cabby was convicted of rape and sentenced to 20 years in prison not too long ago. And that’s just one. There are plenty of others.

  • Elhuero

    as a lifelong resident of Colorado I can confirm that the denver police department is absolutely useless.

  • Snakes

    Nothing wrong with having a GPS on the dashboard(Hey its 2014). Legally, a driver can only use the device while the vehicle is lawfully standing or parked and not while operating a vehicle.

  • FlyNavy

    Something that every police officer in the United States needs to be familiar with: The US Marine Corps 14 leadership traits for officers. Every time I read a story about police misconduct, or every time I experience police misconduct myself, the officers in question FAILED in regards to most, if not all, of these traits:

    1.JUSTICE Definition: Justice is defined as the practice of being fair and consistent. A just person gives consideration to each side of a situation and bases rewards or punishments on merit.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Be honest with yourself about why you make a particular decision. Avoid favoritism. Try to be fair at all times and treat all things and people in an equal manner.

    2.JUDGMENT Definition: Judgment is your ability to think about things clearly, calmly, and in an orderly fashion so that you can make good decisions.

    Suggestions for Improvement: You can improve your judgment if you avoid making rash decisions. Approach problems with a common sense attitude.

    3.DEPENDABILITY Definition: Dependability means that you can be relied upon to perform your duties properly. It means that you can be trusted to complete a job. It is the willing and voluntary support of the policies and orders of the chain of command. Dependability also means consistently putting forth your best effort in an attempt to achieve the highest standards of performance.

    Suggestions for Improvement: You can increase your dependability by forming the habit of being where you’re supposed to be on time, by not making excuses and by carrying out every task to the best of your ability regardless of whether you like it or agree with it.

    4.INITIATIVE Definition: Initiative is taking action even though you haven’t been given orders. It means meeting new and unexpected situations with prompt action. It includes using resourcefulness to get something done without the normal material or methods being available to you.

    Suggestions for Improvement: To improve your initiative, work on staying mentally and physically alert. Be aware of things that need to be done and then to do them without having to be told.

    5.DECISIVENESS Definition: Decisiveness means that you are able to make good decisions without delay. Get all the facts and weight them against each other. By acting calmly and quickly, you should arrive at a sound decision. You announce your decisions in a clear, firm, professional manner.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Practice being positive in your actions instead of acting half-heartedly or changing your mind on an issue.

    6.TACT Definition: Tact means that you can deal with people in a manner that will maintain good relations and avoid problems. It means that you are polite, calm, and firm.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Begin to develop your tact by trying to be courteous and cheerful at all times. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

    7.INTEGRITY Definition: Integrity means that you are honest and truthful in what you say or do. You put honesty, sense of duty, and sound moral principles above all else.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Be absolutely honest and truthful at all times. Stand up for what you believe to be right.

    8.ENTHUSIASM Definition: Enthusiasm is defined as a sincere interest and exuberance in the performance of your duties. If you are enthusiastic, you are optimistic, cheerful, and willing to accept the challenges.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Understanding and belief in your mission will add to your enthusiasm for your job. Try to understand why even uninteresting jobs must be done.

    9.BEARING Definition: Bearing is the way you conduct and carry yourself. Your manner should reflect alertness, competence, confidence, and control.

    Suggestions for Improvement: To develop bearing, you should hold yourself to the highest standards of personal conduct. Never be content with meeting only the minimum requirements.

    10.UNSELFISHNESS Definition: Unselfishness means that you avoid making yourself comfortable at the expense of others. Be considerate of others. Give credit to those who deserve it.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Avoid using your position or rank for personal gain, safety, or pleasure at the expensive of others. Be considerate of others.

    11.COURAGE Definition: Courage is what allows you to remain calm while recognizing fear. Moral courage means having the inner strength to stand up for what is right and to accept blame when something is your fault. Physical courage means that you can continue to function effectively when there is physical danger present.

    Suggestions for Improvement: You can begin to control fear by practicing self-discipline and calmness. If you fear doing certain things required in your daily life, force yourself to do them until you can control your reaction.

    12.KNOWLEDGE Definition: Knowledge is the understanding of a science or art. Knowledge means that you have acquired information and that you understand people. Your knowledge should be broad, and in addition to knowing your job, you should know your unit’s policies and keep up with current events.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Suggestions for Improvement: Increase your knowledge by remaining alert. Listen, observe, and find out about things you don’t understand. Study field manuals and other military literature.

    13.LOYALTY Definition: Loyalty means that you are devoted to your country, the Corps, and to your seniors, peers, and subordinates. The motto of our Corps is Semper Fidelis!, (Always Faithful). You owe unwavering loyalty up and down the chain of command, to seniors, subordinates, and peers.

    Suggestions for Improvement: To improve your loyalty you should show your loyalty by never discussing the problems of the Marine Corps or your unit with outsiders. Never talk about seniors unfavorably in front of your subordinates. Once a decision is made and the order is given to execute it, carry out that order willingly as if it were your own.

    14.ENDURANCE Definition: Endurance is the mental and physical stamina that is measured by your ability to withstand pain, fatigue, stress, and hardship. For example, enduring pain during a conditioning march in order to improve stamina is crucial in the development of leadership.

    Suggestions for Improvement: Develop your endurance by engaging in physical training that will strengthen your body. Finish every task to the best of your ability by forcing yourself to continue when you are physically tired and your mind is sluggish.

  • Chris

    Note that, according to you, the only reason any of this happened is because you self-incriminated. Just because a cop asks you a question doesn’t mean you have to answer it. In fact, it is always in your best interest not to.

  • balls187

    Tip: Do not talk to the police.

  • Timothy Miley

    Uber is a terrible business for the drivers, because the wear and tear on their car and buying commercial insurance does not leave much left from wages paid by the company,!!! The funny thing is, Uber brags about their wages and the drivers see dollar signs, but by using their cars, they are being ripped off!!!

  • Some Guy

    NEVER talk to the police. It’s none of their fucking business what a passenger in a car is doing, whether he paid for a ride, or even who he is. If he’s not pointing a gun at the pig, the pig can just fuck right off.

    • steiney

      That was my thought exactly. As a passenger, he wasn’t required to show ID or speak to the cop. He should have just remained silent.

  • sham69

    Dave showed remarkable moral rectitude when he refused to take a ride from a nasty cop person he brilliantly deduced had “lied” to him. With his high level of reasoning ability I’m amazed that he couldn’t spot all the slimeball lies he signed up to when he oky-doked his “Uber” user agreement.

    THE COMPANY DOES NOT PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, AND THE COMPANY IS
    NOT A TRANSPORTATION CARRIER. IT IS UP TO THE THIRD PARTY
    TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER, DRIVER OR VEHICLE OPERATOR TO OFFER
    TRANSPORTATION SERVICES WHICH MAY BE SCHEDULED THROUGH USE OF THE
    APPLICATION OR SERVICE. THE COMPANY OFFERS INFORMATION AND A METHOD TO
    OBTAIN SUCH THIRD PARTY TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, BUT DOES NOT AND DOES
    NOT INTEND TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES OR ACT IN ANY WAY AS A
    TRANSPORTATION CARRIER, AND HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY OR LIABILITY FOR ANY
    TRANSPORTATION SERVICES PROVIDED TO YOU BY SUCH THIRD PARTIES.

    • Drakar2007

      So you’re pointing out that a service that provides a service to contract third-party transportation, does, in fact, contract third-party transportation? It’s in all-caps though so that must mean it’s a scary thing!!!!!!!!111one

    • Bigfoot Steve

      So,which part is the lie?

  • Cdb Spender

    POST THE COPS NAME AND BADGE NUMBER – Accountability!

  • mfrazee29

    I’m sure there are some excellent officers in the DPD, but strangely we rarely get to hear about how helpful, gallant, or courteous they are. Is there a pattern here?

  • mtnrunner2

    Spot on with the observations: mainly, the irony of Colorado being a haven of libertarianism (at least in some regards) while protecting the taxi racket.

  • Carlb

    Private events doens’t make info.

    • Timelord

      info events make doens’t private!

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  • PostSurgeOperative

    I wonder how much Uber paid for this advertisement?

  • eserve70

    Stupid cops clearly have a shortage of REAL crime to deal with in that state.

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  • B.Rubin

    Gee, why do people hate cops?

  • Scott

    Uber are gypsy cabs. If you get into an accident and are injured Uber will not have the insurance to cover you like a taxi would. If you use your own ins. you would get stuck paying the deductable, which could be run into the thousands for a major injury, whereas the taxi’s ins. would cover everything.

    • Bigfoot Steve

      So don’t ride with Uber then if you don’t want to. No one is forcing you to do so.

  • steiney

    A cop acted out of ignorance and aggression?!?! This should make the front page! Haha! Seriously though, I’m glad the author and Uber driver weren’t harassed any worse. The hilarious part is that if what the driver was doing was actually illegal, the cop would have done something about it. From my experience, cops don’t typically know less about the laws than the average US citizen who takes the time to actual learn them so they don’t break them!

  • apache501

    Sounds like a bs shill article. It’s pretty blatant…

    • rapier1

      Why? I’m curious as to how you reached that conclusion.

      • Drakar2007

        you’re forgetting – the “shill gambit” needs no proof; it’s automatically true as soon as someone makes the accusation. and if you challenge their assertion, then obviously you’re a shill too (duh!)

        • rapier1

          Oh I know, I just find it amusing when they try to explain themselves.

      • Michael McDermott

        Overall tone was very complimentary to uber. Like it was scripted. I’ve read a few. They almost ALWAYS come out of tech magazines. Lol

        • rapier1

          And that makes them a shill? So if I said that my gf has had great experiences with both Uber and Lyft would that make me a shill? How about if I wrote an article about my appreciation of coffee, does that make me a shill for the coffee industry? How about if the article was negative in tone? Would that make the author a shill for the taxi industry?

          • Michael McDermott

            I just explained myself to you. You sound foolish and if you cannot “get” what a shill is then obviously I cannot help you. Do you understand what a shill is?

          • rapier1

            Yes, a shill is a decoy or accomplice generally paid by an organization to promote their services or product while pretending to be a 3rd party. In today’s parlance a shill would be called an astroturfer.

            So what you are arguing is that Dave Cook was paid by Uber to write this story. Seems like a bit of stretch to me.

          • Michael McDermott

            Doesn’t it seem oddly coincidental that the co-founders brother specifically had this issue AND had so MANY positive things to say?

          • rapier1

            Dave Cook, the author, is the brother of John Cook, the co-founder of GeekWire, not Uber or Lyft. Are you suggesting that GeekWire has some sort of investment in Uber (currently a privately held company)?

  • Loneagle

    Remember, being a Police Officer is a career choice for most people. That being said, not all are created equal. In today’s world, with equal opportunity rules and such, there must be a quota in place to allow a specific number of dumbos on the forces.

  • George Washington

    You sure this was Colorado? It sounds more like some outback in a South American country except he would ask for the bribe up front.

  • Michael

    Based on the sequence of events, it would seem the officers were informed when passengers were picked up by possible Uber drivers, and the speed trap was simply a cover… The taxi businesses are becoming upset with the minimal loss of business.

  • fatwillie

    The officer was completely wrong not only in pulling the vehicle over, but by his actions from start to finish, he did not according to this article do one thing right not one. He had no right to ask the questions he asked the driver, or the passenger, if he pulled him over for speeding that was the issue and he should have identified himself, then explained why he pulled the driver over and asked for license , registration, proof of insurance. At no time does he have the right to teach lecture or any other thing, He absolutely had no right to open the back door, and question the person or persons not driving the vehicle. This office like so many others today is not close to being a professional, and was completely out of line, He is nothing more then a coward, a billie, and a revenue generator for someone or more with an agenda.

    • IhasAbucket

      Most likely he has a family member who is a cab driver in Denver who complains about the new competition in town. My guess, he thought he would screw with the Uber staff and clientele just because he can. That is not the earmark of a law enforcement professional or a professional in general, it is those of psychopaths and tyrants. As a former member of law enforcement, people like the officer in this story give the profession a black eye while increasing the risks and work of those who are genuinely on the job for the public service.

      • fatwillie

        agree

    • Bigfoot Steve

      Actually, he has the right to ask pretty much whatever he wants. Doesn’t mean you’re obligated to answer, but he can ask.

  • ter ber

    Welcome to Amerikas Police State. Now kneel down and lick their hand for mercy. Beholdapalehorse.tv

  • Final_Word

    You should have NEVER given him your license!!!

  • Joebob

    Lesson #1: Don’t talk to the police.

  • Burnerjack

    Either uber is operating a taxi service without the proper permit(s), or every taxi owner/operator should get reimbersed for medalions, permits, cost of training, and all the costs mandated that uber proves are fraudulent. At the end of the day, there needs to be a level playing field. The Same for All.

  • chris1776

    Post the name and badge number of the officer. Always a good idea to publicize incompetent officers.

  • George_Costanza

    The short-medium term goal is to put taxi/limousine/livery businesses into bankruptcy.
    The medium term goal of things like Uber/Lyft, etc. is to get people to abandon ownership of their own modes of travel. Uber is cheaper, and will become even cheaper when the driver is replaced with an autonomous system.
    The longterm goal is to make it against the law for humans to driver their own car/motorcycle/truck. Then you are a prisoner of the megalopolis.

    There is no legitimate reason that the valuation of Uber is $18 billion, unless it is a front for the destruction of liberties/freedom of Americans, and all people of the planet.
    Be careful of what comes out the Bay area.

    • Drakar2007

      ever heard of the Slippery Slope Fallacy?

      • George_Costanza

        I could see a valuation of $1.8 billion, because they get a cut of every fare.
        and there is some value for the back end processing of ride requests, and realtime location processing of the drivers (with company supplied iPhone), and their ‘surge’ pricing scheme.

    • Dylan

      If that is true, then why do the cops hate uber so much? They’d be a part of the system in such a conspiracy.

      • George_Costanza

        No. cab companies pay enough to the local corruption (cough city hall) so they get their cut that way.
        Let cab business, let cut.
        So they are protecting their future ‘proceeds’.

  • Jerk Douglas

    Did the officer rape you too, drama queen?

  • Peter Yianilos

    Pigs.

  • lilbear68

    if you weren’t driving you should have refused to hand over the DL

  • CB

    They are not using personal vehicles. Some wealthy person buys a fleet
    of black Chryslers and then hires people that can hardly speak English
    to drive the Uber Black cars at $10 per hour with no benefits.

    • Drakar2007

      I’m curious as to how you draw the conclusion that by hiring some part-time drivers, I would automatically owe them “benefits”. If an employee requires benefits as a contingent of their employment, they are free to choose a more suitable employer.

      • sueshe

        I am so sick of this false argument. Obviously there is no “more suitable employer.” Employers become more suitable when required to do so by law.

        • Drakar2007

          “false argument”

          Assertion.
          My point was perfectly valid, and instead of offering any evidence or argument to the contrary, you come back with another assertion based on nothing more than a fundamental misunderstanding of economics. Classy.

    • Timelord

      You’re an idiot.

  • tallpinetree

    As a longtime Colorado resident, just a quick thanks for writing this, and for handling the situation exactly as you did. Yay to the truth, and boo to bullying.

    • Timelord

      He handled the situation completely wrong! The correct answer was, “I’d prefer not to answer any questions.” That and nothing else, ever, for any traffic stop or any other detention by any cop.

      • LesCommenting

        … and do you say that before, after or during the beating?

  • Harry Heine

    Congratulations, you were at the ass end of a traffic stop. Cops lie to fish for information and IDs all the time. Has nothing to do with Denver or Colorado.

  • Joe Krozac

    Be glad you didn’t have a dog with you, the cop might have decided to pull his weapon and shoot the mutt because he felt threatened.

    “When donuts are outlawed, only cops will have donuts.”

  • limbodog

    Boston here. Police pulled over my driver for “not having the right plate” to be an Uber driver. To my knowledge, there is no such requirement. I’m assuming the officer was just harassing him based on a made up law (BPD does that sometimes).

  • fuzznarf

    This article has more to do with the fact that nearly all police are ignorant of the law and enjoy bullying people. You would have been better served recording the encounter on your phone than looking up the laws online which the cop clearly cared nothing about. Remember, police will lie and break any law to create a criminal to arrest.

  • stratomartin

    Assuming that policemen know much about the law is like saying that garbage men know much about biology.

  • Timelord

    I’m sorry to be so blunt but you and the driver were both fools for answering that cop’s questions at all. The proper response from the driver would have been, “What did you pull me over for?” and NOTHING else. The only correct answer to any other question is, “I’d prefer not to answer any questions.” The same is true of you. The cop can ask any question he wants but you have the absolute right not to answer. For that matter since you weren’t driving you weren’t obligated to show him any ID. Please learn your rights and then USE THEM!

  • Michael Z

    Uber, Lyft, zTrip….. No matter what you use there is controversy……

  • TheTrollThatCantBeStopped

    Good going, liberals!

  • Chris

    The driver didn’t have commercial car insurance where as the cab companies and legit transportation services must have it by law. There is a huge difference in price between livery and personal car insurance as well as all the hassles of complying with inspections etc. Comparing $37.44 to over $60 explains the difference. As the Governor stated: protect consumers and public safety. You certainly can’t protect consumers with personal car insurance nor does it make it fair for the legit transportations who have to spend a lot more time and money than über. Stop being so emotional and look at the facts, I can get you a list of people who had the same experience you had with a legit transportation company where everything went great but had a bad experience with uber. Also, read the article in Business Insider from a week ago or so how the average uber driver makes below minimum wage, like a cancer that grows, how can uber sustain this???

    • NoelArmourson

      Uber and Lyft are required in CO to carry $1,000,000 insurance. Yellow and other traditional taxis must have $500,000.
      Driver wasn’t cited for insurance violation. Cop lied.

  • Adam Nox

    “Believe me, this is not an easy thing to do when we are taught as
    youngsters to respect authority, the uniform, the badge, the gun (which
    was clearly visible in his holster).” You still carry that BS around in your head? Look at the help wanted, ‘become a police officer, GED required, no training necessary, etc’. Geezus just look at the news, every week it’s a new story about a cop shooting someone in the back or beating the hell out of them or just tasing them to avoid any hassles. I was told once by a former SWAT member and community policing teacher that the police are simply a gang legitimized by the law.

  • Richard_Whitney

    So the taxi union and their lobbyist got to the mayor and the policeman’s union, and now the police are harassing Uber drivers and their passengers.
    Who is surprised?

  • Dennis P

    I’ve had some mixed experiences with Uber in NYC. Some of the divers were very professional, the cars were spotless, but I’ve also had some drivers that didn’t seem to know the first thing about US traffic laws and had cars worthy of a junk heap.

    • Louis Silverman

      Hence the rating system: bad drivers/vehicles get weeded out quickly. Only the strong survive.
      Edit: Have you ever tried lodging a formal complaint against a cab driver? That requires two blood samples, your parent’s birth certificates and a high school transcript here in Chicago.

  • mjb80

    How many free Uber rides did the author receive for this article??

  • http://thebigklosowski.com Allen Klosowski

    I took an Uber home from the airport on Saturday night – Ubers were all over the place – so this cop was smoking the funny stuff. About $50 cheaper than a taxi, in a big comfortable black SUV with cold bottled water and a courteous driver.

    The taxi companies in Denver are often operating 10 to 20-year old creaky cars in some cases, with shocks that feel like they have never been replaced, seats that look like they haven’t been cleaned, a faint smell of party or cigarettes, drivers that won’t stop talking on their bluetooth headsets, and who give you attitude if you try to pay by credit card or take a short ride. If you call them to pick you up, there isn’t even a guarantee when or if they will arrive. It’s a terrible experience.

    Taxi companies are offering a much inferior product for more money. And the companies or unions the taxi drivers work for have forced them into this position by limiting what the drivers can drive, the shifts and routes they can work, etc.

    It’s not just Uber, I’ve used GetTaxi in London and Tel Aviv that offer amazing experiences with the existing taxi fleet. The taxi companies better change quickly or they are in trouble just like the newspaper industry.

  • TTCWW

    If a cop anywhere is “enforcing” / Violating current law they are personally responsible for liability.

    Next time suggest that the officer either follow current law or resign from the police force before you start filing lawsuits.

  • Fleecemon

    The pooolice in Denver don’t want no uber hairs hanging around. (Apologies to Big Fat)

  • crashman

    The ticket was 55 in a 45? That is certainly splitting hairs. Yes it is illegal but most cops don’t bother, feels targeted to me.

  • Will Johnson

    Denver police do whatever they want. The actual law is not important. Perhaps they are sleeping with the taxi commission. Maybe some smart city desk editor will investigate that.

  • Mark in Colorado

    What did you expect? You are just another pee-on and
    moron as far as the DPD is concerned.

    Not literally, of course, I appreciate the article and the exposure of these
    line toting idiots. Discretion is definitely not something local
    police forces are allowed to exercise.

    Their view of the public is that we are just turds to be
    scraped of their shoes in between revenue collection activities. We all have
    seen plenty of examples of police thumping people for defending their rights or
    malicious prosecutions brought forth to silence ill-targeted citizens who were
    obviously wronged.

    Denver has a new chief who has expressed his desires to
    clean up the department, but that is a major task when the dike is not just
    leaking, but over flowing with battery acid. He is making a few dents, but
    calling people to task and asking for accountability only drives the illegal
    activity further underground and leads to worse transgressions to hide the
    initial wrongs. I wish him well, but think he bit off more than he can chew.

    The left lane not-passing stop is perfectly OK and a good
    law to enforce. That law makes sense of roadways that move as fast as Colorado
    drives.

    Ticketing drivers who run
    a red light to let a fire truck pass, that is wrong.

    The cop video below with
    the slow driver in the fast lane is a great example of discretionary thinking.

  • http://www.intermarketbrasil.com.br Intermarketbrasil.com.br

    Uninformed cops, crazy and corrupt and stereotyped behaviors there everywhere in the world. Worse is that there mmuitos that are druggies or drunks minimum degree. There are any of them being abused in the past and people are traumatized number which makes them dangerous people like a pitbull. Analyzes of personality and behavior should be held every four months these guys. Situation worse with a large number of corrupt politicians and poorly trained teachers.

    I hope authorities worldwide withdraw such policemen movement.

  • William Hamilton

    This is why I always carry a camera with me and I always insist the the cop identify himself. Always get the pigs name!

  • singingcowboy674

    They must be scanning phones for the Uber app. And then when they gps locate the driver, they pull them. That OR and this is a scary proposition, these were not REAL cops. Uniform and wig wags not withstanding, proper protocol and procedure MUST be followed. As well, if this driver wanted to he could beat this ticket on a procedural. But I’ve never heard of an officer acting like that. For one, officers don’t give free rides (anymore, used to they would offer a ride somewhere if you were REALLY in a bind and had absolutely no other way or means and they weren’t on a call). For one, it’s a insurance thing. Cop has a wreck transporting someone in their vehicle who is NOT IN CUSTODY and the department then becomes liable for any injuries received by the rider.

    Another incredibly bad part about a cop offering a ride to the airport is this-

    What happens when a call to respond to a signal comes in and he can’t because he’s carrying a passenger?

    It really stinks of a impersonation tactic and I would DEFINITELY take that ticket to court. I GUARANTEE the cop will not show up because unless I miss my guess the guy wasn’t a cop to begin with.

  • tionico

    A far better plan of action for passengers in an alternative ride share programme is simply to remain silent… or, at best, “Sir, I am sitting in the back seat of a car, travelling. I do not wish to further discuss the matter”. The cop was out of line demanding identification…. I’d have refused. He did not stop ME, he stopped the DRIVER. I am under no suspicion leading to the contact. He has NO probable cause to engage me in any conversation. Always remember: ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you say can, and will, be used against you and anyone else in the car. NOTHING you say can ever be admitted into evidence to help prove your innocence. Thus the correct path is to say ONLY what is requried by law… and answering the questions as was done here is far beyond that. The cop had NO grounds for initiating any conversation with the passenger. You can, and should, refuse to provide any information beyond, if spefically asked, your name. The driver also answered far too much. And the FACT that he was cited for speeding when he was not, and all the other questions about Uber, proves it was a sting. Fight that one in court.

    • sueshe

      Yes, it’s always a good idea to say no to an armed cop

  • Dylan

    TL;DR: Police are a**holes and will do anything in their ability to try to ruin your life or, at the very least, your day, whether their actions are legitimate or not. This is seriously part of their training in some areas (Remember the stop-and-frisk nonsense in NYC?). If you were of any lower income status you’d already be familiar with this concept.

  • pdquick

    The person driving you to the airport was using personal insurance to operate a business with his car, which invalidates the insurance. He was also speeding. So you were in the backseat of a speeding car with no insurance. The officer was kind enough to offer you a free ride to the airport, but you refused it, choosing instead to argue with the officer.

    Glad that worked out for you.

    • Dylan

      You’re also missing the point here. Their car was obviously targeted because it was an Uber car. The police would never have pulled over a random civilian for speeding 10 over near an airport. In fact, the allegations of speeding were likely even falsified due to the officer’s frustration over the fact that he had no leg to stand on to arrest either of them.

    • Drakar2007

      “The person driving you to the airport was using personal insurance to
      operate a business with his car, which invalidates the insurance.”

      I don’t believe the details provided in the article actually back up this assertion – though if I’m wrong I’ll gladly re-read a section I could possibly have not read thoroughly enough.

  • MrKamikaze

    Not surprised, there are many professional and generally excellent law enforcement agencies(Aurora Police Department being the best IMHO) in Colorado DPD is not one of them.

  • COBRACHOPPERGIRL

    This is what you get when Americans continue to appease bullies for the last 100 years. The bullies being the courts and the police state. WW2 should of made it bright and clear, appeasement never works with bullies. It only does so for the moment, and they just keep coming back at you later, demanding more and more lunch money. Eventually they get so hooked on your steady stream of lunch money, they come to expect it, its theirs, and they get psycho violent and indignant when you finally say enough is enough.

    You should never pleas bargain. You should never pay a fine. You should never give them a dime in any way. You have the right to a jury trial. Take it. Let the jury decide. And if you are on a jury, for gods sake, know what jury nullification is and how to argue against your other jurors for it. Jury nullification basically says… yes, he did X, but we don’t agree with the law, we don’t think that its just at all, and so we find him innocent.

    There is a simple litmus test to determine if any crime has been commited. Is there a victim ? If there is no victim, no crime has been commited. If there is a victim, but no injury of any consequence has occurred, again, no crime has been commited.

    In the author’s case, there was no victim, there was no injury, and so there was no crime. Why he felt scared is beyond me. People love to be terrorified and love to fear. They eat it up. But remember, fear is the path of the dark side.

    Even if his driver had no registration, no licence, no insurance, no nothing… and they had been carried a barrel full of toxic waste in the trunk or a kilo of marijuana… if there is no victim, and no injury, then no crime has occurred. These highway men that are the police and local traffic court systems are nothing but extortion rackets and juicy ones at that. Because most Americans are total butt fucking cowards, they fear the state, live in fear of the state, and would rather pay some insane exhorbitant fine to make it all go away than argue that quiet simply, they have hurt nobody, and the public roads belong to them (the public) and they have every right to use them as long as they don’t hurt anybody else (hurt a real person, that is, not a fictional concept… like the state, society, etc).

    • chopped-up-cobra-girl

      What is it with all this anal fascination these days?

  • Joel Robinson

    What do you say to an officer? “Officer, I respectfully assert my right to remain silent.” “Officer, I respectfully do not consent to a search of my vehicle, person, or belongings.” Pretty simple stuff really.

    • Drakar2007

      Or in this case, “I respectfully do not consent to providing my identification unless you can state for the record that I am legally required to do so.”

      • mitspanner

        In Denver that could get you a beating.

  • https://plus.google.com/100566630691752307059/posts Scott Linford

    The bad apples are in Denver. In general Colorado police are courteous. They protect and serve. Not in Denver. Lived there a decade. Not one interaction was positive in the Denver area. Not one was worthy of respect. They aren’t out there for your safety. In Denver the law is tool of harassment, for a twisted agenda or personal amusement. The kids there know it because it’s impossible not to notice. Police don’t even pretend to be the good guys.

  • Guest

    i was told a long time ago that denver’s motto was “come on vacation, leave on probation”…

  • http://trevorsullivan.net/ Trevor Sullivan

    Police are terrorizing people left and right, but people still think they’re the “good guys.” It’s time to realize the truth.

  • No Cop Love Here

    Cops suck everywhere.

  • http://ClaussConcept.com Jason Gerard Clauss

    Besides the obvious issue of police-taxi complicity, a form of organized crime, there’s a bigger issue at hand here. Traffic enforcement should NOT be a job of armed police. Enforcement* should be carried out by civil servants like meter maids who record infractions and send citations via mail. Simply driving 10 mph over an arbitrarily (and unscientifically) decided limit should not put you face-to-face with an armed officer with enhanced prerogative to shoot you.

    *To say nothing of how poorly designed traffic laws are; they are determined with the unfortunately correct assumption that most drivers are completely clueless.

  • visibleunderwater

    heartbroken because you lack reading compreshension? No ticket was issued for “driving uninsured”, ticketed for SPEEDING. “Evil Uber”? hmmmm….first you make an inaccurat claim, then call them evil with a capital E.

  • Citizen Jay

    Always film the police. ALWAYS. At the very least get a badge number.

  • TisSheilah

    That’s funny. I recently spoke to a job coach at the county workforce center. She helps people find work to keep them off of unemployment and/or welfare. I thought her suggestion that I work for Uber until I found a full time job was brilliant. I can’t imagine a better way to meet people, network, and get job experience.

    If the Denver police department is going to start harassing people for trying to earn a living, it is no longer worth it. People who are unemployed can not afford the fines, fees, and insurance increases associated with tickets.

    Over regulation exists to protect monopolies. It kills initiative. It harms the taxpayers because it makes it harder for people to earn a living and shoves a good many hardworking people on public assistance.

    Shame on Denver for keeping people in poverty and raising the burden on our taxpayers.

    • sueshe

      are you crazy? Denver endorses Uber, one stupid police officer just didn’t know that.

      • TisSheilah

        I saw that Gov. Hickenlooper endorsed Uber and Lyft last month. He also asked our state dept. of regulatory agencies to review the requirements taxi companies have to comply with in the hopes of reducing them. Oh, and he wants Uber to have drivers get to mandatory maintenance checks on their cars.

        I have lived here long enough to know that politics change on a whim. I have seen regulatory agencies create rules that keep people out of business (especially in my field – psychotherapy). I do not believe that the taxi cab companies are going to go quietly. I don’t trust this will last.

        I hope you’re right. I hope it is just one stupid cop.

    • John Moore

      Wow, be a Uber driver is not a good option, lol. Wow, that is some sorry lazy advice.

      • TisSheilah

        Thanks John, I’m beginning to agree with you.

        I think I’ll wait until the legal options shake out.

        Have a great day!

  • Benji

    Uber is profitting from crony capitalism. I have no sympathy for Uber’s corrupt practices – just feel bad that they have misled the public and their drivers.

    • P_Ivcec

      Crony Capitalism is when the government provides direct support to a business by taxing/regulating their competition, or through direct subsidies… are you a bloody freaking idiot or what?

  • max alburg

    what is an Uber?

  • Rob

    Cab associations hate Uber and Lyft ride sharing services.

  • danny_livewire

    This is not surprising at all…. Ironically enough, Law Enforcement is usually the last to learn about how the laws actually work in this Country.

  • Giul Xainx

    I know what the issue really is.

    Yellow cab is still in, or has completed the purchase of metro taxi.

    In denver alone there are over 3,000 taxis. When uber came into the picture most of the drivers were not properly liscened by the state.

    This drove the number of active taxis to around 4,000. The cab business started losing both drivers and customers when uber came into the city.

    You may have a bad experience with cab drivers who are in the city right now because the drivers have lost a lot of business. And it costed them dispatchers.

    In 2013 when metro taxi was in a steep decline they decided to start cutting corners. They took out the cashiers first and moved into the 1st bank account being mandatory for all drivers to have. They wanted to streamline the process of paying cab rent to move without a cashier on site. If you had cash you had to deposit it into the 1st bank account to pay the rent.

    Next their dispatchers went from around 10 call takers and 2 dispatch supervisors to 2 call takers and 1 supervisor.

    Then driver contracts were revised. If anything was wrong with the cab after a collision, incident, or accidental damage that the company would only cover certain things with their insurance.

    Then just last year in 2014 they told drivers that they forgot to pay the taxes for their cabs.

    So uber pretty much dried out the taxi business to the point where anyone with 6 points or less on their license can drive a taxi. The problem is that eventually these same drivers will migrate to uber.

    All I can say is enjoy it while you still can. Taxi drivers have lost business left and right because of the phone app.

    Most of the taxi drivers who are professionals left the cab business to drive for uber. But the requirement of uber cars is that they must be specific cars.

    The lowest they accept for uber cars are toyota prius. Lincoln town cars are not accepted and ford cars are not even on the roster. So taxi drivers can not sign up with uber unless they buy a porsche Cayenne, an audi s6 and above, anything ferrari, or h3 hummers. None of these cars are below 50,000 new and used prices are near 25,000.

    Basically uber wants you to have impressive cars to transport its customers.

    But one thing you have to remember is these uber drivers most likely do not have insurance that covers its passengers.

    Which means in case of an accident, you may not be covered under their insurance plan.

    This is why you see on the ticket “do not [lose] insurance.”

    Uber has to abide by state laws for insurance. Which means both car and passenger are covered in case of an accident. But some of these drivers purchase paperwork that is law abiding, but one month later they drop the coverage of the passenger to get cheaper insurance rates. Because so much control for insurance is given to the driver it has denver police worrying that these drivers will do such a thing, and many of them have already been caught doing so.

    The reason why he offered you a free ride was because your driver dropped his coverage for you. That is what denver is investigating on your driver. The reason why they took your license is to help protect you in case you ended up in an accident and were not covered.

    • Louis Silverman

      This is nonsense. A Lincoln Town Car would easily fall into UberX standards, let alone Uber Black Cars, it’s natural constituency. You can even get picked up in a Toyota Yaris (subcompact) in an UberX. I’ve been picked up in numerous Ford vehicles (examples: 500/Taurus, Escape, Focus). If I have been picked up in a luxury vehicle, it’s usually a mid-sized used Lexus/Mercedes/Acura. But usually it is a mass-market mid-sized sedan (Toyota Camry/Honda Accord/Kia Optima/etc.)

      Quit spreading FUD as if it were gospel.

      • Giul Xainx

        This is information from 2013 when I first tried to sign up for Uber myself. I tried to sign up for Uber in Denver Colorado.

        In each state only certain vehicles are allowed to be used as a public transport vehicle.

        Each Department of Transportation in each state have different laws. The DoT governs what we can or can not do or use.

        Upon signing up with Uber it had a current list of acceptable vehicles FOR DENVER CO. Lincoln Town Cars were not being accepted yet. Ford Vehicles had nothing in the list as acceptable.

        The lowest I found at the time was An Audi A6. Used prices in Denver for the acceptable 2008-2013 vehicle make were around 25K. (Cut off year for vehicle makes as per the DoT for Colorado. You can not use a vehicle as a transport service that is older than 8 years. This goes by VIN Number. Not by when the car was purchased, or used. It also has a mileage restriction of 200,000 miles per car. Once a car has reached 200,000 miles it can no longer be used as a transport car.)

        I am not spreading fud like you claimed. I Know a lot more about the transportation business than I am letting on. Your comment only shows your lack of understanding.

  • NoelieTREX

    The next time I am pulled over I will make sure to have my phone ready to record and ask the officer for his badge number. That is ridiculous and someone should have to give an explanation for treating respectful, law-abiding citizens this way.

    • sueshe

      that is a great idea. All cop/civilian interactions should be recorded and if need be, shown in court for a jury of peers to decide on who was in the right. Cops are not above the law and they need to be reminded of that.

  • Mile High Dude

    I’m always glad when these things are brought to light. The quick response from the Chief of Police shouldn’t go unnoticed either though. No disrespect to Geekwire but since this isn’t CNN, he could have just blown it off. Good for Mr. Cook in taking immediate action (ie. contacting Denver Post). Our police dept., like many, sometimes needs to be reminded they are not God, this fairly new Chief seems to do a good job at that. Hope you’ll have better luck next to you visit our great city – hey, if you are ever on fire, our fire department is top notch. :-p

  • jeffrey55

    Would you expect anything less?

  • Dead Squid

    The author of this article is a liar. The driver was also cited for not having insurance. The box with red lettering is a No Insurance Offense charge, which was also checked. In fact the officer even wrote a note on the ticket to the city attorney to not dismiss the insurance charge.
    The author chose to ignore this important piece of information, especially since his Uber was not insured, violating the law and placing himself at risk.
    Does GeekWire even have editors?
    Does the author have any sense of integrity? Or did he get such a thirst for a “story” he chose to ignore the totality of the story?
    Did the author even bother to see if Uber was allowed at DIA? No, because his “story” was more important.

    IF this is how you represent Seattle, please stay in Seattle.

    • sass

      Obviously you didn’t read the update where the chief of DPD states the officer in question corroborated Mr. Cook’s story. Hint: It’s the final link, at the bottom. You know, just before the comments section.

      • Dead Squid

        i don’t have to read the article, i read the ticket.

  • Schratboy

    Gestapo bullship

  • JESS K

    My Neighbor and his wife took UBER from LAX to their home in West Hollywood. Inadvertently a bag was left in the car, full of iPads, iPhones etc. MINUTES later they called UBER. The driver said no bag, but would NOT return to their residence. This scenario hit the news in LA on a major Network. Lawsuit pending. ALL UBER drivers are “independent contractors” and UBER’s agreement that everyone agrees to before using absolves UBER of any responsibility. MOST UBER drivers DO NOT have a chauffeurs license, which is required in Calif. MOST UBER drivers DO NOT have the proper insurance, which is required in Calif. LAX police are now ticketing UBER drivers for not having the proper license, the proper insurance, NOR the proper permits to pick up or drop off at LAX. Other LA area airports are following suit. MANY LAWSUITS have been filed against UBER. “Caveat emptor” would be a word to the wise! Use a licensed taxi or Chauffeur Limo service that is properly insured, just in case of a accident or other unfortunate circumstance.

  • WondrngAbout

    I wonder when the first severe accident will happen where the Uber driver does not have commercial insurance… who will pay for potentially millions of damages? The personal insurance of a driver will not cover it and I have not heard about Uber covering their drivers.

    • bluecrane1

      Uber’s insurance picks up where the driver’s personal insurance stops. It’s combined coverage is superior to the typical cab.

  • sass

    I’m so very sorry your final experience in Denver was one of negativity. We hope you will come back and visit. Denver is a great place to live and work, and lots of fun to explore!

    • RKflorida

      Yup, sounds like a real liberal paradise.

  • http://www.idfluence.com/ Carl Honduras

    THERE WAS NO INSURANCE during your Uber rides you moron. Learn to READ a tos page some time. There is a reason these idiots can charge less than a cab because THEY HAVE NO INSURANCE COVERAGE!! If you would have gotten in a wreck, the driver would have lost their own policy and Uber would have denied any added coverage as they have done in EVERY instance of one of their drivers getting in a wreck. Get a clue.

  • Montrosebuff

    One reason John Hickenlooper won’t be re-elected in Colorado in November. The guy is a tool.

  • William Andrus

    Could have been one of those fake cops, happens a lot in Denver with unmarked cars.

  • dx loat

    I read a lot of people complaining that Uber drivers don’t carry enough insurance and that if I use Uber and there is an accident and I am hurt I won’t be covered, if this is true than surely there are many fine examples of this happening to people considering the number of Uber rides being given daily. Anyone?

    • John Moore

      I’m not sure. But I think Uber needs to just carry supplemental insurance on their “freelancers” to avoid any issues. Uber and other firms are just being dumb and greedy by not thinking ahead. At some point something bad will happen.

      • johnqp11

        Uber does carry commercial insurance that covers their drivers. “This policy covers drivers’ liability from the time a driver accepts your trip request through the app until the completion of your trip.” (From Uber’s website). There was a lawsuit in California over whether Uber is responsible when a driver is searching for a passenger, but has not accepted one.” I think they should be, and it looks like they are taking steps in that direction.

  • John Moore

    He got he “Driving While Black” experience via Uber. That is how it is for us 24-7-365. They hassle you when you are not even doing anything wrong. This guy was lucky, he “got smart” with the officer by asking a simple question and did not have any “harsh” ramifications. Had I done that, I WOULD have gotten a “free ride,” and probably much worse.

  • John Dillinger

    never talk to the police, nothing good can come of it. also you don’t have to give them your ID if you haven’t broken any laws…. easier said than done though.

  • Illutian Kade

    Typical “thug cop” harassment. Realizes he’s fucked up and issues a “technicality” ticket.

    Oh sure, speeding? What was it? 1 MPH over the limit?

    …I’m pretty sure Uber doesn’t endorse unsafe driving habits; speeding being one of those “unsafe” habits. Which means each Uber Driver runs the risk of having their passenger call the office and report them for speeding.

    You can expect more of this crap as the militarization of the police continues.

  • Pierre

    Even though I agree with the cop’s sentiments, I think he was dead wrong for using his position to push his own political agenda. But still, the writer is such a drama queen that it’s sickening…

    • bd1143bc

      You agree that people should be overcharged for rides in stinky ugly cabs, and that the government should over regulate simple things, and that 2 consenting adults cant decide on a fair price for a ride without the government holding their hands?

  • RM

    I’m so sick of police abusing their power. The passenger shouldn’t have been asked for his ID in the first place. He had done nothing wrong and there was no probable cause for the officer to ask for his ID.

    The police are corrupt.

  • Is He….

    Im so sorry you had that experience the police in Colorado are becoming nothing more than thugs and collectors for the city coffers they get off on power and have 0 respect for citizens. Kinda scary really…

  • JustAnotherOne

    Sounds like another case of “eensie weensie” syndrome. Prayers for that poor officer suffering from an incurable disease.

  • Thomas Gray

    The cop probably took your id to run a check for outstanding warrants. Coming into contact with law enforcement is all the justification they need, but it would have been considered a good call if they had found an outstanding warrant.

  • Chiron202

    “…this is not an easy thing to do when we are taught as youngsters to respect authority, the uniform, the badge, the gun…”

    The author learned an important lesson that all americans need to accept: What we may have been taught when we were young is no longer true (if it was ever true). We live in a Police State, whose enforcers have the power of life and death without consequence. They do not serve us. We serve them. You should fear and avoid them. If forced to interact, do not ask questions, submit to their power and get away as soon as possible. Mr. Cook should consider himself lucky that he escaped without a beating, or worse.

  • River C Wharton

    The first state to legalize marijuana and the first state to legalize rideshares. We have extremely open laws on houseshares as well. Colorado is leading in moving from a patriarchal business model to matriarchal. Colorado is moving the “I” to the “We.” Washington is still fumbling around with marijuana. “I don’t look forward to returning to Denver.” This same attitude is why Seattle is suffering in population growth while Denver is booming. I am glad I left Seattle to move to Denver. Have fun in you Amazon corporate state.

  • Tori Parker

    Please don’t let this instance make you hate Coloradoans, Denver PD has a long history of harassment and scare tactics (I know, I’ve been on the brunt end of it). Normally, we are a pretty good state, I just avoid Denver County as much as possible.

  • pabloat8000

    The government was protecting cab companies who are major donors to local politicians. If you’re not in the protected class, you’re out of luck these days.

  • texican

    So what does one do, if in a wreck, and the driver has no insurance?

  • http://www.therideshareguy.com/ Harry Campbell

    Interesting story but the author kind of make it seems like he’s in a foreign country being hassled by some corrupt cops. Cops are scary when you’ve done something wrong but I don’t think there’s any reason to be afraid as an Uber passenger.

  • ExPat ExLawyer

    I generally don’t cotton to GED holders lecturing me about the law. Cops are paid enough that with our complex and ever changing legal climate, they should be required to hold a BA or BS that includes state law courses, as well as constitutional law.

  • Taylor

    As a proud Denver resident I am severely disappointed to read this. I can’t stand that the actions of a single officious prick can totally ruin someone’s experience here. I hope you do come back soon and hopefully have a far better experience.

  • Frank McLaury

    I spent 10 heavenly years in Congress park with my late wife, working in that humongous hotel on Court Street, we loved every minute of our Denver life. She died, I moved, and absolutely nothing out of Denver has made sense to me since your state has legalized marijuana. Nothing. Marijuana for breakfast, lunch, dinner, gambling, stupidness, and articles like this that do not make sense. The memories that were heaven for me have turned to dust.

  • Marilyn Z

    Great….my son and his family are vacationing in Keystone at this very minute. I hope he doesn’t have a run-in with a cop.

  • Driver

    My feeling on this is that not only was the cop in the wrong but the higher ups in the police department are obviously not doing their job and educating their officers on new laws as they are passed. Every cop should be notified in writing and verbally on new laws so that things like this do not happen.

  • Revo Luzione

    First thing you do when getting pulled over by cops: flip the video camera on your phone to the “record” position, and place it so it can see the officer, and the officer can see it. Following that procedural certainty, proper response to all questions from law enforcement is: “……..”

    Or, if you’re being talkative: “Am I being detained?” and “Am I free to go?” Smile for the camera. Be nice. But be firm. Stand up for your rights.

  • danmogger

    You really should try to find out the cop’s name and get it out there. (if you’re in touch with the Uber driver, it’s on his ticket)
    The cop needs to be punished for what he did, and getting his name out there does that. His name needs to be tied to this incident in Google forever. He has neighbors and friends and relatives who may have heard this story but have no idea it was him. You could fix that. Future employers should know it, too. An egomaniac like that needs to be knocked down a couple of pegs or he’ll continue doing this.

  • tryingtocalmdown

    cops are useless. unionized social workers with guns with authority trips. so sick of these ahole gov’t thugs.

  • Jessica Mehring

    It breaks my heart that Denver is becoming known for police harassment. I am so impressed by how you kept your cool when confronted by this officer. Thank you for sharing your story, and I hope your next trip to our beautiful city is a better one!

  • madee gandouri

    hey dave cook everything you said is lie i don’t believe your story because i’m not white person ! and stop saying dirty things about cabbies there been in the transportation industry for more then 1000 years , I understand i know you are so cheap , just why you like illegal uber but wait when any major accident happen with uber driver then you will see and trust me you will get surprise

  • madee gandouri

    hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I was charged over $60 for that trip. The Uber trip? $37.44.

  • madee gandouri

    this is unacceptable ,
    what Uber spokesperson Taylor Bennet said !!!

    ((( We don’t hire, drivers own those vehicles. We partner with existing transportation companies,” )))

    HEY TAYLOR BENNET , you are absolutely wrong 100% what you are saying is crazy and lies , you said we partner with existing transportation companies ??????? UBER X is transportation companies ???? must of drivers you hire there vehicle just use for Fu*****g personal use . they don’t have no FOR HIRE AUTHORITY TO OPERATE AND NO COMMERCIAL INSURANCE TO PICK UP PASSENGERS .

    so why you saying (we partners with existing transportation companies ??????? stop that ballshit understand ???

  • madee gandouri

    BALTIMORE (WJZ) — New regulations could drive Uber out of Maryland. The popular car service is battling back, appealing the new rules. But state officials say there needs to be more oversight.

    Meghan McCorkell has reaction to the latest ruling.

    The Maryland Public Service Commission has labeled Uber a common carrier. It’s a move the company says could make it impossible for them to operate here in Maryland.

    It’s rapidly become one of the top ways people get around both Baltimore and Annapolis. Billed as transportation on demand, Uber’s cell phone app allows users to request a car and pick them up with the click of a button.

    “You just hit a destination and request a quote,” said one Uber user.

    But this week, the Maryland Public Service Commission has ordered staff to create new regulations for the “For Hire” company.

    “It would really make sure Uber’s operation near impossible in the state. We don’t hire, drivers own those vehicles. We partner with existing transportation companies,” said Uber spokesperson Taylor Bennet.

    Uber argues they deal in technology, not transportation.

    “It’s kind of equivalent of calling Expedia or Orbitz an airline company simply because they connect customers with those airlines,” said Bennet.

    Uber operates in dozens of cities and has faced legal opposition in multiple states.

    Just this week, officials in Virginia reached a new deal to allow Uber to keep operating in that state. Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley says the Public Service Commission is trying to adjust regulations to accommodate the new technology.

    “I hope that we’ll work it out with sound policies that allow Uber to stay and people that are getting rides to be protected,” said O’Malley.

    So Uber won’t have to put on the brakes in Maryland. The Public Service Commission has given Uber 60 days to apply for a motor carrier permit.

    Uber will file an appeal with The Public Service Commission. The company plans to continue daily operations.

  • Cup_of_STFU

    Your first mistake was to give up your 4th amendment rights and identify yourself to a police officer. Unless you have explicitly broken the law, you are not required to identify yourself. I would have told the cop to go fuck himself.

    Denver police do this shit all the time. They manipulate laws to say whatever they want them to say. One officer attempted to tell a high school girl that use of her iPod while driving is illegal, but the law specifically states that only “wireless telephones” are illegal to input data into while driving. an iPod is not a wireless telephone.

  • Dave

    Dude, innovation doesnt mean it is above the law. If you think innovation should be parised, what about PLaystation modification, iPhone modification and jailbreaking and there are a lot of smart people not for fame and wealth making things better get thheir ass kicked.
    The police officer was doing the right thing and I assume you are another ignorant only know things taught at school. You need to get out of your tech bubble and look out side world and read more. The law required commercial insurance and other certifications posted to transport passenger for profit. Your essay look like a kid saying “It was not in the text book so I don’t know.” Whatever you say or name it, I am worry all the time when I am on the road and praying not to get hit by the Uber and Lyft drivers. The personal insurance doesn’t cover any and uber will play the card “Uber deactivated the driver’s account.” likethey usually do.
    I hope you guys read the detail on Terms and conditions before agreeing and study the Lyft and Uber insurance policies.
    In the memory of Sophia Lui (Age 6; RIP 12.31.2013).

  • Constitution guy

    Ugh, I cringed as I read about every decision you made. You have no understanding of your constitutional rights.

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