Will iPad lovers give Windows 8 tablets a chance?

That’s the question we asked for this week’s installment of Geek on the Street. GeekWire stood outside of the Apple Store in Seattle’s University Village, and showed people who came out of the store a tablet running Microsoft’s new operating system.

The hardware we used was the very basic Samsung slate that Microsoft has given to developers and journalists for testing, not a Microsoft Surface or any of the nicer devices that will be launching with the new operating system. We focused their attention on the user interface, and even without the best hardware, the reaction might surprise a few people.

Microsoft plans to release Windows 8 on Oct. 26, and it’s counting on the new touch-friendly interface to compete with the iPad and other tablets.

We ended up talking primarily with people who already own iPads or were thinking about buying them, although one diehard PC user also gave us her reaction.  Watch the video to hear the consensus, or read the summaries below.

Delen from Seattle

First impressions? “It’s very cool – I like the visuals. I’m very visual and I like the tiles. You can click and point to which one you’re looking for. It’s easy to see as opposed to a tab bar across.”

You have an iPad… “I do have an iPad and ironically, one of the things I just complained on the new Safari update about was that it all went to tabs as opposed to individual boxes when you open Safari. So, I didn’t like that. This is pretty cool and timely.”

Would you consider replacing your iPad? “I would consider getting (a Windows 8 tablet), definitely.”

Are you an Apple or Windows person? “I’m half and half. I am a hybrid. I’m not 100 percent dedicated to either one.”

Roy Waugh from Seattle

First impressions? “It’s like every new product — they’re cool. That’s why people come up with this stuff – to find out what works better each iteration of the product. It gets better and better.”

Would you buy one? “Microsoft has the best online storage capacity right now so that’d be something to consider. But I’m so wrapped up in Apple I don’t think I would. Everything I have is linked together.”

“I am an Apple guy. Over all the years I had trouble at work with some Microsoft products and viruses. I’ve never had that issue with a Mac. Not to say that isn’t going to haunt me someday, but it’s an issue that hung with me enough times.”

“Once you completely convert, very rarely is somebody going to go back. I’m Apple forever — until they take another bite off the other side of the apple.”

Kathy Orourke from Seattle

First impressions? “I can just sort of touch and go – I don’t have to push something and then go to it. I just grab from the side with my finger, so that’s really great. It’s clear and the pictures are clear.”

“I can go to my Excel spreadsheet if I’m out where I keep track of my spending. I just bought something at the Container Store and I can just add it on right here.”

Would you buy one over an iPad? “Yes. Everything I do is PC. I get lost as it is and I don’t need to be even more lost with a new product. Microsoft has been great they are very helpful and I like it. I’m invested already in Microsoft. The products are consistently good. I like it a lot, actually. I love my computer. So yeah, I would be game for one of these.”

Jack Couch from Seattle

First impressions? “I was hoping this would be good, but I didn’t expect it to be this nice. I think I like the layout. On my iPad, everything is exactly the same size and it feels like I’m staring at tiles after tiles after tiles. So this feels more organized.”

“All I want from a tablet is a good screen, good battery life and a browser. But this looks like it has pretty good resolution.”

Thoughts on the Apple vs. Windows debate? “I doubt I’d be holding a Windows tablet right now if Apple hadn’t been dominating for a while. But Microsoft has been good about responding and looks like they’ve done a pretty good job.”

Kathy Hughes from Bremerton

Would you consider getting one? “For sure. Especially now that I know I can add software. I didn’t know with the iPad if I’d be able to add software.”

“I want the better product. The one thing I was looking toward Apple to was that Apple’s products don’t seem to break down as easy. So that was one of the reasons I was looking at Apple. But Apple is quite a bit more expensive so that was one of the downfalls of it.”

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  • Nokia&Windows=NoWin

    “I’m so wrapped up in Apple I don’t think I would {switch}. Everything I have is linked together.” Whoa! This used to be the argument why people wouldn’t switch from Microsoft, where all their devices were integrated together. Now Microsoft faces difficulties to penetrate an Apple ecosystem. Crazy how times change.

    • http://twitter.com/insideriscom Insideris.com

      It’s the power of Apple 5

  • Chicken Little

    “For sure. Especially now that I know I can add software. I didn’t know with the iPad if I’d be able to add software.” Is she serious?

    • tomp

      I get her point, actually. In many cases the apps you add to an iPad are slimmed down, less functional versions of a real application (Office) or a website (Netflix). I have always found this a bit of a disappointment on my iPad, and I think a lot of those design decisions are driven by limitations of iOS. The iOS app for Netflix is horrible compared to their regular website. On a tablet running a full OS (in this case Windows), those limitations go away and you have the same experience on a desktop or a tablet.

      • Walt French

        @tomp wrote, “I think a lot of those design decisions are driven by limitations of iOS.”

        I think you got that backwards: Apple designed iOS to be appropriate to the extreme limitations of running ultra-light devices on battery for up to 10 hours at a stretch.

        The Samsung device, despite being a third heavier, gets one-third of that life. It’s not because Samsung are crap engineers; it’s because that “full OS” demands a pretty powerful CPU and the battery, heat and fans that go with it. And the early builds aren’t very smart about power, with Intel and Microsoft exchanging jabs over who’s at fault.

        I’m not committed to out-guessing Microsoft’s engineers, but it seems reasonable that Microsoft will likely get similar results from the Surface, as Apple gets from the (also Intel and also about 11″) MacBook Air. That means approximately half the battery life of the iPad, a much less mobile-friendly 4–5 hours.

        Maybe Microsoft can figure out how to get good, responsive performance from a touchscreen device, without running something as powerful as an i5. But they haven’t demo’d it yet.

        • http://www.mainstreetchatham.com/ JimmyFal

          I get the feeling that after you’ve caught your breath, and waited until the actual release of the actual product, you will have all the facts you need, so that you might come up with a reason to convince yourself that MS has no business being in the business that they have been in for 42 years.

          • Walt French

            @JimmyFal wrote, “the business that they have been in for 37 years.”

            Profits from the XBox division have been negative or minimal, essentially forever. They have never made money on hardware.

            Microsoft’s business is all about the OS and Office, both of which continue to serve their markets VERY WELL and will not be problems.

            The question with Surface is how well Microsoft can pivot to utterly different businesses such as smartphones and other mobile devices for consumers. There, they have a mixed, sometimes awful history of business (not technical) success. Plays4Sure, stabbed in the cradle. Zune, never made a dent in the market. Kin, an embarrassment. WinMo, which had market share for a while but was overwhelmed a couple of years later. Windows Phone, which likely earns less money than their IP licensing to other phone makers.

            Microsoft has done very well in stable businesses where their “component” approach lets them specialize in software, while others do the hardware, add-ons, etc. That is a recipe for miscommunication and sluggishness in rapidly-changing technologies, which is why Microsoft is willing to alienate its long-term partners HP, Dell —even Nokia! — by competing against them with an “integrated” hardware/software product.

            (Read Clay Christensen, who wrote The Innovator’s Dilemma some 15 years ago, if these ideas are new to you. His “technological disruption” is the reason that IBM, Palm, RIM, Nokia and others saw their core businesses evaporate and the reason that Microsoft is now changing its approach so sharply.)

            Microsoft is not in Kansas any more. They can’t sell off their PC line the way that IBM presciently did, so they’re trying like mad to leverage it into brand new businesses where they have powerful new competitors. (Already Android & iOS dramatically out-sell all Microsoft OSs.) They will need to learn some new skills and possibly disappoint old customers by pivoting. It will be quite an experience.

          • http://www.facebook.com/dylan.winslow Dylan Winslow

            I don’t think I like your tone, Walt. Everyone is entitled to an opinion , but you are very clearly spamming up this comment section with the same argument OVER and OVER again. We get it: You’re pessimistic about Windows 8 / Windows 8 tablets because you think people will find the new OS confusing and MS has never succeeded at selling hardware and blah blah blah. Hold the god damn criticism until the bloody tech has actually been released to the public ok?

          • argus

            Hm, I think he’s actually being polite in stating the obvious. Personally I’m getting tired of the “wait until Microsoft comes with product X with features Y & Z, then they’ll dominate the market (…and return from de facto irrelevance)”. What a yawner! If it wasn’t for their desktop OS and Office, Microsoft would have been finished by now. And now they decided to mess with their crucial OS. Modern (“Metro”) UI is fugly, confusing and hindering productivity. Yeah, I know, besides the grotesque UI the new killer feature in Windows 8 is that it boots very fast. Listen to yourselves, people! Booting, really?! Windows 8 is a desktop disaster coming. Ballmer and Sinovsky are two grandpas stuck in the past and desperately trying to be visionaries. Quite frankly, it shows!

          • Walt French

            I knew upfront that my thesis would be unpopular, which is why I asked for downvoters to let me know where my thinking was wrong.

            Alas, all I’ve found out was that I’m the bearer of issues that people don’t like to have thrown out at them. Occasionally some other reasons given, but mostly, naked downvotes; I didn’t see a single point I made challenged, let alone refuted with evidence.

            I’m used to hanging out at sites where the host, and other commenters appreciate having their thinking challenged, an a debate where we all learn. But if GeekWire readers want a cheerleading site, far be it for me to tell you what works for you.

            Fare thee well!

  • http://www.mainstreetchatham.com/ JimmyFal

    A lot of missed opportunity for the guy on the street there. For example he could have probably floored Mr. Waugh, but bringing up the search charm and typing in “Sounders” and showing him he could search IE 10, Bing News, and any app that supports universal search with one search term and one finger.
    I think the guy that said all I need is battery life and a browser magnifies what Apple has really done here, it’s not magical, it’s common sense for gods sake. Now MS have done it and once again, “responded”. This time with a keyboard and MS OFFICE in tow. I like Microsofts response, big time.

    • Walt French

      I guess the “guy on the street” was trying to get info about how the devices looked, not sell something that doesn’t exist and he doesn’t get commissioned on anyway.

      • http://www.facebook.com/dylan.winslow Dylan Winslow


    • Kord Taylor

      I think it was proper to not lead the response here. The user should simply find the Charm bar. That’s how I would rate the UX on devices.

      And yes, I love that some devices even have buttons for search and search via voice input these days.

      And I think Apple hides it more than MS in a really dumb way. Sure, Google is more upfront with it as that is their expertise.

  • http://www.christopherbudd.com Christopher Budd

    I think there’s a key point that still can’t be answered: price point.

    Kathy Hughes spoke to this on the Apple side: “But Apple is quite a bit more expensive so that was one of the downfalls of it.”

    There’s not hard numbers on what a Windows RT tablet will cost (including Surface). I’ve seen some guesses that would put them well above the iPad (and even more above Kindle Fire).

    That’s the big question here. Even if people like it, it may be too expensive.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003510718511 Harley Meekins

      RT is almost guaranteed to be about $400.00 US.

      • Walt French

        And RT is absolutely guaranteed to NOT run any legacy X86 code — it needs at least to be recompiled in C# and tweaked, and re-written if the dev didn’t use C#. (Never mind putting in the nice Modern UI that current apps don’t use.)

        And there are NO indications of how snappy/fresh X86-style apps will be on an ARM chip under RT. This survey was for the more powerful, presumably more expensive X86 flavor of device. Fantasy baseball up against real teams.

      • 1stkorean

        Where is that guarantee? Yeah there has been the talk of $199.99 up but nothing from MS, and most all of the partners RT tablets are in the $600.00 and above price range. I got my Asus Transformer Infinity 700 with dock for $580.00 and it is an Awesome device. I have ask Santa (mom r u listening) for a Surface but in Seoul it will probably be ₩777,000.00 KRW range.

      • Guest

        The best thing MS can do at this point is to take a financial hit and offer the devices for $199 or less. Flood the market with inexpensive 10″ devices and work hard on SP1 to iron out some of the eyebrow raising inconsistencies in Windows 8. Oh yeah, and fire Ballmer.

        • Travis Pittman

          Absolutely 100% spot on the money. Apple as a company philosophically will not do this. Given the success of the Xbox Microsoft have already proven it can work. If the XBox was just a tad more open so I could run my own video players on it etc then I’d never need an HTPC. I really think THAT is the way forward for the XBox, we’ll see if MS actually does it.

          For the surface though, if they perform basically the same strategy, flood the market with similarly spec’d tablets running windows 8 for $200 less than $appleequivalent then I think the market is young enough for them to gain some serious traction and get the REAL marketing they need. Devices in hands is the most effective marketing for your product these days.

  • Walt French

    Charming exercise: ask n00bs to compare a real-world device that they bought a year or two back, and compare it to a hypothetical re-design of a device that nobody, including its maker, intended to be a consumer product.

    The Samsung device weighs a third more than the iPad, and gets one-third of the lifetime on battery. The n00bs are asked to imagine that Microsoft will magically equalize those killer differences. The Surface has no price tag; I think we can presume they won’t undercut Apple by too much; in any case, we simply don’t know and neither did the surveyed people.

    We’ve recently enjoyed some leaked finger-pointing between Microsoft and Intel about who’s responsible for power management issues on the Surface. Days before its release, that suggests that asking n00bs to imagine a ten-hour battery life with an Intel CPU running a “real” OS that was never designed for highly-mobile devices is asking them to engage in Total Fantasy.

    I guess I’ve heard one or two detractors, but I don’t doubt for a moment that the Win Modern User Experience 8 looks good on first blush. The question that buyers will ask is, does a real device meet my needs at a good price and offer me an upgrade path?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003510718511 Harley Meekins

      Holy, didn’t know old guys trolled so much. Calm your self there old man, don’t break a hip. Most of the people that would have come out of the store are not developers, or tech savvy people in any way. Does the average person give a shit about weight? no, as long as it isn’t 10 lbs. They were not demoing the Surface, but a piece of hardware available RIGHT NOW. Accept it or not, the general public are “n00bs”. They want a portable touchscreen web browser. Windows RT. What is the big deal? Is there something wrong with Microsoft succeeding in something?

      • Walt French

        I hope for Microsoft’s sake that you’re not repeating any actual position of theirs.

        First, “Does the average person give a shit about weight? no, as long as it isn’t 10 lbs.” Every person who bought a Kindle, Nexus tablet, iPad or any laptop cares about weight. The whole deal about the 7″ tablet/e-reader is that you can comfortably hold it with one hand while standing or without a table; the deal with iPads is you can easily use it in your lap. The Surface is challenged in trying to put enough battery in it to give good lifetime, without reaching the weight of a laptop.

        Second, …a piece of hardware available RIGHT NOW.” precisely wrong: Developers who got the Samsung device were told it was never going to be offered for sale; it is too heavy, has too short a battery life and in general is made for application testing, not commercial release. The 5 people interviewed were asked to imagine a hypothetical device that powerful and smooth, but in a box about two-thirds the weight (therefore, 2/3 the battery, etc.). Of course (as the Apple diehard said), next-gen stuff ALWAYS looks great, and imaginary stuff is fabulous. But that doesn’t mean that the Surface that goes on sale come October 26 will actually be a strong competitor against what Google, Amazon and Apple are then selling.

        Third, “They want a portable touchscreen web browser. Windows RT.” The general public has never seen Windows RT; they have stayed away from the Modern UI in droves; you are simply making this up out of your own feverish imagination. Every person interviewed is quite aware of a portable touchscreen web browser from the store they just left, but many haven’t bothered to buy one. I can tell you from my personal experience that touchscreen is GREAT for portability (though the Microsoft keyboard is super-clever), but it’s inferior to a laptop when it comes to using the device for longer stints.

        Finally, “Is there something wrong with Microsoft succeeding in something?” No problem with that. I use Office heavily — on two HPs at work and on my Mac. I need MS products to be good. My observations were how GeekWire’s article is spinning a story that is not actually supported by the evidence, and you are posting the same fantasies. As I said earlier, nobody seriously challenges whether Modern looks good; but that has very little to do with the sales prospects for a device/OS that people haven’t seen, haven’t priced, haven’t had to deal with new paradigms.

        Go back and read the interviews: NOT ONE person in this small sample mentioned a known feature of Surface/Win8 that would cause them to buy a Win8 tablet instead of an iPad or a ultrabook. The reasons they DID give are sometimes unknown attributes or sometimes just plain in contradiction to what we DO know. (Fr’instance, sites like Ars Technica are full of complaints about the retraining effort of Modern and the new Office, but one woman wants her tried’n’true Excel interface.)

        If GeekWire is just cheerleading the Softies, that’s fine. People need that. But as a suggestion of how well Surface or Win8 will do, it’s pretty thin soup.

        • http://www.facebook.com/dylan.winslow Dylan Winslow

          Lol nobody read this. Just stop.

        • jackcouch

          Hey Walt. I actually agree with a lot of what you said and I do have business ties to Microsoft, but that was my honest feedback – I really did like it. I really like metro and I had the same reaction when I picked up a windows phone for the first time (metro has had a big impact on the design of software well outside of Microsoft because it is very cool stuff). But at the end of the day I think web apps are the future. So when it comes to hardware I really just want something that is thin and light, has a great screen and has a browser. In the past Microsoft has been focused on software and has relied on companies focused on hardware to build hardware. I think those hardware guys have let them down over the years so now they are building their own and I think there is a really good chance they are going to nail it on the hardware. But I haven’t seen it yet (I didn’t get any early access outside of that interview) so we will all just have to wait and see if it delivers. There is no question that there is a huge opportunity in spite of the fact that apple can sell a larger piece of electronics and everyone loves it (iPhone 5). Interestingly I tried a google chrome book a couple months ago and hated it (cheap hardware) and couldn’t help but notice that google is headed down the Microsoft path of letting others build the hardware while Microsoft is following after Apple and bringing the hardware in house. Competition is great.

          • Walt French

            Thanks for the note. Yes, there are LOTS of things to like about the Win8 user interface, and MANY firms build fine hardware. My posts here were to not take the survey as seriously as Geekwire presented it — the interviewees (including yourself, right?) were asked to imagine putting the interface they were shown, into a lightweight, high-powered device that apparently STILL doesn’t exist.

            When the Surface/X86 or whatever it’s called comes out, it’ll be interesting to see how people feel about the combo of battery life, usability, weight, etc. My own guess is that Office/Modern will appeal to a fairly small set of users, so that most X86 tablets will be used in legacy mode, resulting in a tepid market for Modern apps. Kinda as you say, that web apps seem to appeal for your envisioned uses.

        • Vincent Moore

          Walt, I know this was posted 20 days ago but I just came across it. You indicated, about Samsung Slate tablet, that it wasn’t “available right now” and that developers “were told it was never going to be offered for sale.”

          First, the Slate IS available right now and I’m typing this reply on one. The version that the developers received is not available as it was equipped with GPS and I believe had 3G/4G capability. The release version did not have those features.

          As for being too heavy, it’s just under 2 lbs. which isn’t really very heavy in my opinion. Yes, battery life IS short on this device compared to an iPad but it’s an entirely different beast!

          I’ve had this machine for about 6 weeks now. It originally was purchased with Windows 7 Home Premium. I immediately installed the Windows 8 RTM on the machine and really liked it. Having purchased it when I did, I was eligible for the $15 upgrade to Windows 8 Professional. I purchased and installed that this past weekend, just after the release.

          Let me state one thing before I continue. I OWN an iPad 2 and use my iPhone 4s daily. I think that they are both great devices BUT this tablet, at least for my use, puts the iPad 2 to shame.
          It’s not running RT though.

          This machine is running an Intel Core i5 processor and has 4 Gigs of RAM along with a 128 Gig solid state drive. Additionally, it has an SD card slot, full size USB 2.0 port, and Bluetooth connectivity. It’s running Windows 8 Professional and not the scaled down Windows 8 RT. From being completely shut down, I hit the power button and I’m at the login screen in about 9 seconds since putting Windows 8 on it. With 7, it was about 16 or 17 seconds.

          I’ve been an IT professional for the past 22 years now and this machine is awesome. The battery life IS, indeed, something that I wish was better but it definitely serves my needs. I don’t do long commutes on a train or anything so I’m pretty much always near power. I can get about 4 hours of normal use out of it without needing a electrical outlet to connect to. Most times, I’m at the office or home and electricity is nearby if needed. Honestly, that run time is about what I’d expect to get out of a similarly configured laptop computer so I’m happy with it.

          I love the iPad 2. It’s a great “media consumption” device. Reading, watching movies, browsing the internet, etc are great on it. It will not do many of the things that I need it to do though. I can do all of the things I mentioned above on the Slate but I can also log into my corporate domain with it, access network shares, run network diagnostic utilities, run Microsoft Office 2010, Visual Studio, Vizio, etc. on it. For ME, it’s just what I’ve always really wanted.

          It won’t be for everyone and I wouldn’t even consider the Surface RT for myself. I would probably have waited for the Surface Pro, which will run real Windows 8, but I was too impatient.

          I love some of the Apple products but I also love this machine. I guess I’m open minded enough to appreciate the good qualities of both and figure out where each of them fit into my personal life and my corporate life.

          One more thing I want to mention. Since I got this machine, I haven’t used a desktop or laptop at home. I also haven’t bothered to use the iPad 2 either. This machine is my chosen one now, both for home and work.

          While it may not be for everyone, it certainly is for me and many people, like me, will definitely consider Windows 8 tablets.

          • Walt French

            Thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds like — correct me if I misstate this — your Samsung tablet is a fine replacement for your laptop: about the same weight, battery life, CPU oomph, etc as an Ultrabook class machine. And built (pretty well, I guess?) with more or less the same parts as one. People like myself who use mostly a laptop (it’s my only personal machine) might like it just fine, if they can work inside the 64 GB limit.

            My comments to @Harley related to the idea that this was in the same class as a tablet computer, rather than a laptop. I don’t own one, but people who DO prefer them as a lightweight alternative to a laptop or as a ultra-simplified light-duty computer for people who aren’t as intense as it sounds you or I are.

            Those people seem unlikely to get a device that engadget tested as lasting less than 4 hours on battery, but is nonetheless heavier than every other tablet to date. The extra CPU power (and my laptop needs/runs an i7 with 8GB of RAM for what I do) will be wasted on somebody who wants a tablet instead of a laptop. The iPad owner I know best is looking to trade in her iPad2 for the mini, to make it MORE portable (with the same pixel count), for example.

            Your and my choices are not the issue; nor do I pretend that Microsoft / Samsung / Apple / Google make great/inferior products. I’m just saying that this informal survey reaches some odd conclusions about how people will respond to the actual Surface/X86 tablet, since it asks people to imagine a device with very different characteristics from what they know, or were shown.

  • Walt French

    Oh, and I also enjoyed that the “I was hoping this would be good, but I didn’t expect it to be this nice” guy shows as being a former Microsoft employee. A developer, possibly with business acquaintances who got one of the BUILD tablets.

    (Yes, a PR photo shows him next to a MacBook Air. And I am not saying GeekWire led people to the Apple store just to interview “people coming out” of it.)

    Then you have another guy, a dyed-in-the-wool Apple head. No sale.

    A woman who’s interested in getting Apple-level quality at a better price, willing to consider the Surface, price totally unknown. Here’s your chance, Microsoft, to beat out Apple’s $499 tablet or its $999 ultra-light laptop

    And a woman who “gets lost as it is” who’ll be asked to put a brand new version of Office on her brand new Surface so that she doesn’t have to use a simplified spreadsheet like Apple’s.

    In other words, these could — potentially! — be interpreted as pretty grim for Microsoft: there’s not a single known feature of the Surface running Win8 that will appeal to any of the four except the ex-Softie.

    PS: since this is meant to be a civilized, useful discussion: any down-voters, would you do me the courtesy of calling out what mischaracterizations or mistakes I may have made? Thanks in Advance!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003510718511 Harley Meekins

      Dude, most of the things that they were trying anyways didn’t use the desktop, meaning everything they seen is available in Windows RT, so they could have been sold on RT anyways. But those devices are not available to the public yet. Surface RT will be less than $400.00 US. Its not that extreme.

  • jackcouch

    Come on geekwire! You guys did a great startup spotlight on Monchilla.com so I thought “sure I’ll help out with an interview,” and now there is a picture of me looking like I’m drunk or something. :)

    • Walt French

      Not to worry if MY judgement is any guide. You just looked like an ordinary dad on his day off.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003510718511 Harley Meekins

        Looking at your comments here, I don’t know anyone in their right mind that would want to use YOUR judgment as any guide.

    • http://geekwire.com Todd Bishop

      Sorry Jack! :) It was tough to grab good stills from the video because everyone was looking down at the tablet. We realized afterward that I should have separately taken pictures of everyone. At any rate, I just went back and grabbed a different image from the video, hopefully a little better. Thanks for sharing your opinion and talking with us.

      • jackcouch

        Oh, man I was just joking. Can you make the video look like my belly isn’t sticking out (though my wife assures me it’s just the sweatshirt ;). You guys are great.

  • http://rubengomezradioboy.tumblr.com/ Rubén Gómez Radioboy

    Apple ecosystem? Is Roy kidding? And I was an Apple fanboy since 1998, and now I am leaving Apple because their products están empezando a ir muy mal, ya no innovan, son aburridos…

    Now I love Windows 8 and Windows phone 8. I think is the future the same way in 1998 I pensé que Mac OS X era el futuro.

    I am going to buy the Surface PRO.

    • http://twitter.com/insideriscom Insideris.com

      With Sinofsky in charge, Microsoft has turned into something special

  • John long 80

    So the people interviewed were dumb. Let’s face it.I don’t think The surface will work. Windows 8 looks nice, but it is impractical and terrible for laptops and desktops, thus pushing people to the surface which willonly end in dissappintment if you are looking to replace a laptop or desktop. Tablets do not replace a server unit (a pc ) , you cannot expect a tablet to be a good spreadsheet creator, or expect your diablo 3 to work all that good on one. Since we are accustom to the way desktops and laptops operate from windows 95-7 (osx9-10.8), windows 8 will be too big of a shock to annyone who has used a computer in the last 50 years, windows 8 will not be accepted by the public as a usable desktop(laptop) os.
    I think the majority of the unbiased consumers will jump over to a Mac once they learn that macs are 98% compatuble with all their files they already have backed up on external drives. And the people that will never get a Mac because they have some weird perception about them, will probably jump over to Linux or keep reformating their drives to re-instal windows xp.

    As far as I see, most major developers dislike windows 8. I have been burning much more of my battery life on windows 8. I have learned the system and still dislike it. Microsoft might not be going down a good path with 8.

    • joshbosh

      you are an idiot. Learn how to spell

      • FedUp

        And you apparently have zero netiquette and have nothing to contribute other than rudeness. There could be a thousand reasons why someone’s spelling is not top notch, but you rush to judge before you think. Your statement reflects badly on you, not him. And as for content, John’s assessment seems right on. You lose.

    • jeapstop

      I don’t personally think the people interviewed dumb. Actually I think you are dumb and a sheep

  • williehutch03


    it was refeshing to see a open and balanced article/video! You got both sides of the fence! I just just had a few curious questions…

    Do you plan to do something for Windows Phone?What about when the Surface tablet is released? (Go to a local coffee house in Seattle and pull out a Surface next to someone with an iPad and test the reaction)How many people did you intereview? I’m sure you got some rejections to be interviewed.

    • Taylor_Soper

      Hi Willie,

      Thanks for your kind words. We had a lot of fun with this and hope to do more videos like this.

      We didn’t show every interview we took, as some answers were better than others. And we certainly got our fair share of rejections, but that’s only fair because lots of people don’t like being in front of a camera (or maybe I just scared them off, who knows).

      You’ve got some great ideas there with the Surface. We’ll definitely do something like that. Stay tuned, and thanks for reading GeekWire.

  • Micha

    You didn’t ask any teenagers, then you would have had a balanced perspective.

    • Daniel Anderson

      I’m a teenager and I think Microsoft is going in the right direction with Windows 8. I would much rather have one of those over an ipad. Ios is boring and stale. same grey look everywhere except for the game center app which has awkward 80’s color scheme.

    • Taylor_Soper

      Hi Micha,

      I agree – probably should have seeked out some younger people for this. Good to remember for next time.

      Thanks for visiting GeekWire.

      • jeapstop

        Actually, The kids in my family and their friends have problem with Ipad playing online games (ex: facebook Pico). They have to use laptop or a desktop. When they saw the surface “laptop”… they all went WOW!

  • FaizanAliNaqvi

    Fuck Lady GAGA that Illuminati BITCH

  • Aishwarya Jain

    Use the surface, you’ll hate tablets!! Use an iPad and you’ll hate PCs!

  • http://www.facebook.com/iarslangiray Ismail Arslangiray

    this is like an infomercial more than an interview

  • narg

    I love the “Kathy Hughes” comment of “Apple breaks down less often”. When in fact, Apple breaks down identically to all other hardware on the market today. Just like Toyota which has the exact same failure record as all other car companies on the market today. Amazing how people come to believe such hearsay and push it so far.

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