Nick Hanauer
Nick Hanauer

Seattle venture capitalist Nick Hanauer loves to stir the pot, poking holes in economic theories and taking his wealthy tech cronies to task over hot-button issues such as education, gun control and taxes.

And Hanauer’s iconoclastic image — rooted in a liberal philosophy — is on full display in a lengthy profile in The Seattle Times today by political reporter Jim Brunner. The piece largely centers on Hanauer’s role in pushing for a $15 per hour minimum wage in the U.S.

But one of the more fascinating aspects of the story includes quotes from Hanauer about Amazon.com, a company that he helped get off the ground in the mid-1990s as one of the earliest angel investors. His $45,000 investment mushroomed to more than $100 million when he sold it several years later.

You’d think Hanauer might be relishing in the success of Amazon.com, which as we reported last month topped 117,000 employees worldwide.

Nick Hanauer and Rich Barton on the GeekWire podcast
Nick Hanauer and Rich Barton on the GeekWire podcast

But, of course, Hanauer, who grew up in Bellevue and studied philosophy at the University of Washington, has a different way of looking at things. The multi-millionaire investor does say that he’s proud of the Jeff Bezos-led company, but he also notes that it’s not “an unalloyed good.”

“Amazon didn’t create any jobs. Amazon probably destroyed a million jobs in our economy,” Hanauer tells The Times, referring to the destruction of bricks-and-mortar companies in the company’s wake.

For those who know Hanauer, it’s not too unusual to hear a statement of that kind rolling off his tongue.

Bold. Direct. And contrarian.

On the GeekWire radio show last year, appearing with friend Rich Barton, the co-founder of Zillow, Hanauer said he was disappointed that Amazon.com was not more engaged in the community.

“There’s a broadly-held view that communities somehow take care of themselves, and if we just go to work everyday and run our businesses, everything will be fine. But I don’t share that view. I think great communities are built deliberately with people, and particularly people in leadership positions engaging in the important issues and processes that make the community go. I realize that they are very busy building one of the biggest companies in the world, but I certainly wish that they did more civically in the area and believe, if they did, we’d all benefit from it.”

Hanauer certainly strikes a different pose than many in the tech industry, and his views can be polarizing to some.

But as venture capitalist Robert Nelsen remarks in the Times’ piece, it is good to have “change agents” like Hanauer speaking their minds. Read the full story from the Times here.

Comments

  • Guest

    Please don’t give this irresponsible moron douche bag any more free PR.

    Nick, you idiotic tool, my software company has national contracts for services based in part on paying around $12 to start. This is competitive on a a NATIONAL level. These are long term contracts that we can’t change just because an imbecile like you and a socialist fool think it is a good idea to provide a “living wage.”

    Should the minimum wage go to $15 it will mean that instead of starting people at $12, a 20% premium over the minimum wage, we’ll have to start them at least at $15 and moreover all of the people that we’re paying $15 an hour, a healthy 60% bump over minimum wage, will have to be increased.

    Every company isn’t Amazon and very, very few companies have rock star millionaire CEO’s. Most are just doing the best they can and striving to be competitive on a national and or international basis. It is tough.

    So, Nick, if Amazon destroyed so many jobs, if taxes aren’t high enough, why are you holding on to your money? I don’t get it. Give it away. Donate. Increase your tax contribution. Pay extra for goods and services, but leave the rest of us alone.

    • Guest

      Thank you. Thank you! THANK YOU!

      We’ve all seen the men standing like statues downtown, expecting us to give them money for no rational reason. Most of us ignore the men. Occasionally a man will become aggressive in his pursuit of my money, at which point the authorities need to step in to remind the man to be civil.

      Nick Hanauer is a beggar, standing outside the glittering palaces that Seattle’s creators of good jobs have built. Muttering to himself, he wishes that men would give him coins for no rational reason. Again, it’s rational to walk past him.

      Today Nick has spoken. We’ve seen what has happened before when he has begged for our money (e.g. initiative 1098, the so-called “income tax”): much noise is made and then the authorities (in this case, the voters) quench the troublemaker.

    • fivecard

      To say that $12 an hour is competitive nationally isn’t saying much. After all, according to the OECD, the United States has the highest income inequality in the developed world. Can you imagine making $12 an hour?

      Also, to say that Nick should just pay more is a cop-out. Income disparity, and social responsibility in general, is a challenge for ALL of us, not just those who speak out about it.

      • Guest (Original)

        It doesn’t really matter if $15 is a “living wage” or not. Where does the money come from? From Nick? He lives in a mansion and flies his own Gulfstream.
        Most businesses aren’t bleeding extra cash that they can just “give away.” It isn’t even a net+ scenario because $15, after you pay all of the BS L&I taxes, plus the employee pays their income taxes, returns way less to the economy. In other words bumping the pay, as non-economist people like to portray, doesn’t mean that money is automatically going back into the economy. At best, a small portion of it does. Moreover, you certainly increase the drive for robotics.
        Again, the biggest single issue though: where does the pay raise come from? Magic money?

    • Empress de Snark

      Right on. I’ve never understood why people who couldn’t be arsed to stay in high school, or get a basic, community college education–or get any skills whatsoever–are entitled to anything more than a very low minimum wage.

      Minimum-wage jobs are for entry-level workers; they’re supposed to provide work experience for young workers. They’re not supposed to buy you a 3,000-sq. ft. McMansion or a new car or annual trips to Disneyland. They’re not supposed to be a “family wage” or support a family. They’re not supposed to allow you to fill up your carts at Wal-Mart and Costco every weekend. The system isn’t broken just because you can’t afford these things with a minimum-wage job. What’s broken is that you’re too lazy to have finished your education or learned some marketable skills. You thought you were too cool or bored or sensitive or fragile or whatever to stay in school, so now you’re dealing with the consequences of making other things your priority (such as drugs, or grunting out babies you can’t afford). What’s broken might be that you sneaked and lied your way into our country to take jobs that typically go to our teenage kids, and now you demand the good life even though your only skill is putting French fries into a paper bag. That’s all that’s broken, is you. It doesn’t require legislation. It requires you making smarter life choices.

      LOL, “Amazon destroyed jobs”. The free market, how does it work again? Amazon provided products and a service model that more consumers wanted, at lower prices. Instead of going to Elliott Bay Books and getting a lot of snotty hipster ‘tude for books that I had to special-order at twice the price, I could order the book from Amazon at a competitive price, have it arrive at my house within a week, and skip the attitude and the parking fees.

      • Conuly

        Minimum wage jobs are supposed to pull people out of poverty. THAT is what they used to do, back before inflation continued and the wages didnt rise with it.

        • gibson707

          Inflation is due to the government pumping out money they didn’t have. It’s another horribly failed effort by the government to help our economy. We don’t want inflation, so why should we try and pass laws that force us to keep it? If the minimum wage law was supposed to lift people out of poverty, then why is there still poverty in this country? It does nothing but kill jobs. Let’s say the minimum wage is increased to $15/hr. Imagine paying a person at McDonald’s over $100/day to flip hamburgers, and lots of times screw up your order. Now tell me what a person pays in education to acquire the knowledge needed to work at McDonald’s. All he needs to know is how to read and do basic math. He doesn’t even need to be good at either.

        • Empress de Snark

          Please cite the law where employers have any responsibility to pull anyone out of poverty. Employers have work that needs to be done, so they hire employees, and employees agree to the proffered rate of pay by accepting the job and working at it. Employees who limit their options by leaving gaps in their skills or education seem to be snapping up these low-wage jobs; no one is twisting their arms and forcing them to accept any job.

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  • LiveFree

    Nick should head back to New York and leave WA safe from his uber left wing politics. We don’t want New York style laws and taxes here. This is the free state of Washington!

    Just because he got lucky as a passive early investor in Amazon.com, then profited off the $4b Aquantive bubble (subsequently entirely written off by Microsoft) doesn’t mean he knows anything, as anyone who has worked with the guy will tell you.

  • Slaggggg

    Can we please stop referring to Hanauer as a “Venture Capitalist”? Nearly all of his activity is political activism. It seems he holds on to the VC moniker so he can get a lot of press of the sort “Rogue 1%er actually doesn’t have heart of stone like all the other filthy capitalists!” — which both the Seattle Times and GW seem to have bit on.

    Hanauer was born into a rich family and doesn’t seem to know what it takes to build a startup or wealth from scratch. I am really sick of him telling us who worked so hard for our money that we need to spend it the way he wants.

    If he really cares about the $15 wage, he can implement it right now at his pillow company. Why hasn’t he?

  • Slaggggg

    Thought question for GW: Why don’t you cover the political activism of members the tech community around libertarian or fiscally conservative causes? We get article after article on Hanauer … but almost none on tech folk who feel differently.

    I guess the closest case is your coverage of Uber/Lyft/Etcs fight against regulation … but your angle there has been more a story about government trying to shut down some startups than following political activism.

    Why does only Hanauer warrant coverage of his political views in these pages?

    • Kevin McCarthy

      Agreed! It’s obvious of the political slant of this site even though they never mention it.

      • Slaggggg

        I see multiple posts from “Guest” all the time! Sheesh Mr Pot-Calling-the-Kettle-Black.

    • Kevin McCarthy

      Agreed! I’ve heard enough about this guy and his über liberal crones Rich Barton. I’m sure there are interesting people in other political spectrums as well. Even in King County 40% of the people voted for Romney.

      • Guest

        You mean that Romney got most of his King County votes from Medina? You should look at the voter map again my friend.

        • Kevin McCarthy

          Almost 300,000 people in King County voted for Romney in 2012. You think they all live in Medina?

  • Nick hypocrat

    Typical hypocracy in person retired from business. Nick does not expect to get additional significant capital anymore. He has paid 15% tax on capital gain already at most, although his accountants/lawyers might stuck even better deal for him. So he is bored now and want become famous on other’s people cost, including middle class paying taxes from salaries.

  • jdurocher1973

    I’m not sure why we should pay attention to Nick’s views on the minimum wage or Amazon’s job creation/destruction. He is speaking from his heart, but he is not an economist. The car manufacturers destroyed jobs of the horse and buggy-whip makers, did they not? Nick can afford to make lofty claims and get media attention for them, but I don’t think many of us regular folk put any stock in it.

    • BenTheGuy

      You are very short-sighted. Car companies needed people. New industries developed today can be automated to such a high degree that all indications are that creative destruction has hit a roadblock it is unlikely to surpass.

      Just because something was before, doesn’t mean it always will be. Perhaps a new industry I can’t currently conceive of will develop and require actual human labor that cannot be automated with machines, and will provide enough jobs to employ everyone.

      But I doubt it. Most likely new industries will involve massive automation where there would have been people previously.

      Perhaps once we really get into space and can send extra population to new environments (I volunteer!), we can solve the problem of not enough jobs.

      • Econ Reality

        Log off your computer and sell it, go buy a typewriter, start sending regular old snail mail, and, while you’re at it, don’t use any computers for anything.
        See how easy it is to keep people employed? This is why nobody does it. it goes against human nature to be inefficient, in general, and thus Amazon didn’t kill jobs, Amazon just found a method to tap into humans’ nature to be more efficient.
        this isn’t something you can stop and in fact you participate all the time in or you wouldn’t be posting on an internet site. I know, you’re liberal, the rules don’t apply to you though, right?

        • BenTheGuy

          I’m not sure what point of mine you are trying to refute, it’s almost like you are talking to someone else, or you just read the first sentence and attacked. Maybe it was the meaning of the word ‘kill’ in the context I used it. By becoming more efficient, Amazon as able to do more with less people. Maybe you don’t like the word kill for that, whatever. I never made a value judgement on Amazon, but you seem to have made up in your little head that I think Amazon sucks because they killed jobs. I applaud them for it. Go Amazon! Help lead us to the future.

          My point is that with automation there will be less jobs, that the cycle of creative destruction is going to die in terms of labor, as each new thing will involve less need for actual humans.

          I’m from from a liberal.

          Now go get some reading comprehension skills and try not to be such a jerk.

          • jdurocher1973

            BenTheGuy – I’ll contribute to your trip to space. You don’t belong on earth where creative destruction has been the way of the world for centuries, much to all of our benefit.

          • BenTheGuy

            Nothing last forever. You’re fooling yourself if you think that just because creative destruction has increased jobs for the last couple of centuries that it will always do so.

            But then again and again throughout history there have been fools like you who think that just because something happens one way today that it will always happen that way forever. Lots of times they end in a bad way.

            Automation…. Whatever ship you decide to send me to space in will likely be built with more robots and less humans than any ship before it.

          • jdurocher1973

            So we’re living in a special time and the tide of centuries of history is about to reverse… magically that reversal is occurring in the brief window of time you happen to exist on the planet. Interesting.

          • BenTheGuy

            Why not? Lots of things that have never happened before in the history of humanity have happened in my lifetime. Lots of things that always happened before no longer happen. That I happen to be living now has nothing to do with the inexorable advancement of automation making much human labor useless in comparison.

            Do you think you are so special that you happen to magically live in the window when everything stays the same and nothing changes? Because throughout human history, the one constant is change. And over and over again the powerful and the smart delude themselves into thinking that what was will always be.

            Go read a history book, you sound a lot like Marie Antionette did before she got her head cut off.

          • jdurocher1973

            Keep thinking you’re special, buddy

          • BenTheGuy

            Never said I was special. I implied just the opposite, in fact. Keep making stuff up, buddy. Your fantasy world where everything lasts forever and nothing ends must be an interesting place.

          • jdurocher1973

            Rinse, wash, repeat.

  • sunnyroberto

    This guy appears to be a first class a$$hole. I wonder how much of his money is in tax shelters. Oh, and I guess he’s a saint but the Koch Brothers are evil. At least the Koch Brothers own businesses that actually employ people and produce things.

  • balls187

    How many startups were able to focus on product market fit instead of infrastructure due to AWS?

  • Dan Scheffler

    LOL…love it! Amazon destroyed millions of jobs. I guess in the same way that the car destroyed the horse and buggy business?

    • JCJ Bike

      You do see that if 2 million retail employees around America lost their jobs and 140,000 people GOT jobs at Amazon, that is a net loss of jobs don’t you??

      Amazon isn’t generally increasing sales of higher priced products (a car vs. a horse). They are taking sales from horse sellers around America and selling those horses themselves for less… and that difference in price comes out of payrolls around America.

      What Americans like you don’t “get” is that eventually, there aren’t enough Americans able to buy their own products because their 12 jobs went to one person in South Lake Union and they don’t have money anymore. Not everyone can be a doctor, IT person, or web designer. Retailer and the supply chain to retail is full of Americans who work hard and do their part including pay their share of taxes.

      In fact, the irony is, if they don’t have jobs, we as American taxpayers pay them thru welfare, food stamps, etc. so the money is going to them… it’s just how do we want to do it?

      And this post is coming from a guy who 20 years ago, had a 180 degree opinion on this topic.

      • Kevin McCarthy

        On a seasonally adjusted basis, in the last 12 months, there has been a net loss of 12,000 retail jobs across the entire country, according to the labor department:

        http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t17.htm

        I think “2 million jobs lost” is just another “fact” that Hanauer
        completely made up.

        • Conuly

          And if amazon had only existed for the past year, that argument might make sense. How does the number of retail jobs today compare to the number of retail jobs when amazon opened for business?

        • JCJ Bike

          Those numbers don’t pass the laugh test. By in large, a dollar spent buying something from Amazon and shipped to Tennessee is a dollar not being spent in Tennessee. Those Tennessee retailers continue to lose revenue and that impacts employee hours needed to staff and eventually, contributes to retailers closing.

          In 1995, there were over 9,000 bicycle shops in America. Today, there are less than half that amount yet there are more bicycles sold than ever. It’s difficult (but not impossible) to buy a bike online that fits, but it’s easy to get your helmet, lock and everything else from Amazon.

          I spoke to a UPS driver a few days after that 60 minutes episode on the drones delivering packages. I said, “drones might be delivering things soon,” and she said, “I hope not because 80% of my deliveries are from amazon.” I said, “you mean during the holidays,” and her response was, “no… day in and day out, 80% of my deliveries.”

          Now if you want to believe that this massive amount of shipping business only cost 12,000 retail jobs nationwide, then you work for Amazon and are not capable of acknowledging the financial impact the company that pays your salary is having on the rest of the country.

          • Kevin McCarthy

            I don’t work for Amazon.

            Amazon didn’t kill any jobs, the changing desires of the American consumer did.

            If you’re really worried about bricks and mortar retail then personally stop shopping online.

          • JCJ Bike

            I suppose if you choose to completely ignore my points, your position makes sense to you.

            Perhaps it’s easier to think of it this way. There will be a point, when technology erodes your job and you will be in a large, and growing pool of Americans who can’t find a job that afford them the lifestyle they are used to.

            So, our government will be forced to respond in a way that increases taxation on the people/companies that ARE still working in order to provide services to the people who aren’t. We will move into a socialist society because unchecked capitalism “ate the jobs.”

            We are seeing it now on a smaller scale with the growing people on welfare and food stamps but there is a lot of evidence that it will get worse.

            There’s an interesting story in the Seattle Times archives about how amazon squeezed this small book distributor into even lower prices… on books that only he supplied. Meaning.. Amazon didn’t have competition. They just instinctively tried to drive down his profit in order to improve their sales. (sounds very wal mart-ish doesn’t it?)

            So circle around to this story and it’s easy to see examples of how amazon is company that is begging the feds to look at their practices closely because they don’t have a larger societal conscious.

          • Empress de Snark

            “Those Tennessee retailers continue to lose revenue…”
            You’re killing me here! Really. Hilarious. Retailers are entitled to a steady income for life! Golly, I’m sure that’s in the Constitution somewhere! Have you considered standup comedy?

          • JCJ Bike

            I’m not saying they are entitled to anything. The debate is about IF and HOW Amazon is impacting our economy. Because we have a capitalist economy does not mean as citizens, we are not entitled to look at how our system is impacting our citizens. In fact, I would say it is our long term responsibility.

            If you choose to educate yourself, go read about the Sherman Antitrust Act. Think about it in the context of Amazon and their business practices. I’m not saying they are there… but I am agreeing with Hanauer by saying this company isn’t the beacon of large corporate responsibility either.

            Just read Bezos’ biography (wall street grunt) and go watch the 60 minutes episode that ran around thanksgiving and make up your own mind.

      • gibson707

        Then by your logic I guess we should get rid of the internet, tablets, and every piece of machinery in factories that now does the job that a person did 50 years ago. They’re already talking about using tablets at restaurants to order food. Will that not affect the tip percentage that servers get, thus reducing the need for waiter/waitress jobs? Also what about all the machines in car factories, computer factories, etc.. that developed machinery to work more efficiently and effectively than humans? Didn’t that destroy jobs?

        The companies that produce the goods sold on Amazon still have their own workers. And if Amazon gets their product sold, then that business may be able to grow and create more jobs. Amazon using the power of internet also helped that business sell a product where it didn’t have a retail store to sell it in.

        Also what are the responsibilities of anyone working at a retail store? All you need to know is how to clean-up, work a cash register, and know a little bit about the products sold in the store. Now how many times have you asked a store associate information or help with a certain item and actually received satisfactory help? Another point is if one of the products break or become defective in any way, you send it back to the company that made the product to be fixed. People at walmart are not going to know how to repair an Xbox.

        So if anything Amazon is helping to rid our system of unnecessary jobs. If your angle is about just giving everyone jobs, then that won’t help us progress as a people. Being that not everyone can be a doctor, IT person, etc.. isn’t because we need other jobs as well. It’s because not everyone has the mental capabilities or motivation as others. How can we become more intelligent as a race if we try to keep the dumb and lazy happy? Yes I know it’s not always a person’s fault for their mental deficiency, but in more instances than some it is. If you want to increase your knowledge in anything, then there are tons of books and information on the internet filled with more info than you could possibly attain in a lifetime. You either want innovation or jobs for every person in America. I don’t see how you can possibly have both.

      • Empress de Snark

        “They are taking sales from horse sellers around America…”
        LOL, aren’t you cute, thinking anyone’s entitled to an eternal income. Assuming horse sellers are owed jobs and business from anybody, which, of course, is a false assumption.
        We don’t need more lard-marbled, indolent Americans to buy stuff. You don’t get it, do you? There are markets of billions of other hairless monkeys, all over the world, to buy stuff.

    • BenTheGuy

      Yeah, yeah, creative destruction. Car manufacturing came along and provided more than enough jobs to make up for it.

      But today that wouldn’t happen. The car manufacturer would just use robotics and automation. Understand that? Time moves on, technology develops, and just because there previously was this great concept of creative destruction doesn’t mean it will always be true.

      Nothing is forever. We are running out of jobs as we increase automation. Most of the jobs in the fast food industry could be automated, and probably will if we raise the minimum wage above what the human labor is worth.

      • jdurocher1973

        This is such a ridiculous premise – that automation kills jobs. Sure it kills old jobs. Automation brings productivity which lowers costs. And new jobs are created because of the freed up labor and new innovations that can put that labor to work. Read, “Eat People.” The idea that robots will take all the jobs and humans will be sitting around doing nothing is elementary and ludicrous at the same time.

        • BenTheGuy

          New innovations like machines that flip burgers. Then those burger flipping people can go work in the new industry that popped up that…. Employs like 10 people because they use automation for everything else.

          Times change, you won’t change your mind. You’ll be left behind, one of those jobless who was sure that you were special and your job and your industry couldn’t be automated, and even if they were another industry would pop up, but oh no, that new industry is already automated and doesn’t need to hire people. Oh well.

          History is full of fools like you who think the future will be like the past. It won’t.

          • jdurocher1973

            You equate automation to technology and robots, but automation has been with us for centuries, always becoming more sophisticated; always killing old jobs and ushering in new jobs in new sectors never imagined before. That’s why there is so much opportunity in the world today compared with centuries past, and why that opportunity will be 10-fold in centuries to come.

  • joe

    So this guy who is so concerned about people at McDonalds making $15 an hour is also the same guy running around commenting on how unfair the new taxi and rideshare regulations are? So he cares about mcdonalds workers but the entire Somali and East Indian immigrant communities that are barely making a living here? ah screw them. Who cares if they lose their livelihoods with uber operating illegally. oh yeah, he invested in uber right? what a moron.

    and if you think amazon is so evil nick why don’t you donate your billions you earned off jeff bezos’s hard work.

  • BenTheGuy

    Obviously it destroyed jobs, and is destroying more as they automate more and more. Eventually we will need a major reworking of society, probably something along the lines of guaranteeing everyone a basic income, and letting those who want more to work, and earn more, and perhaps get a vote that those on the dole do not.

    If you’ve got another solution for having too many people who are less productive and more expensive than a robot, I’d like to hear it.

    • Debaiter

      Won’t happen any time soon. Our modern manorialist system has decades of life left in it.

    • Empress de Snark

      Why subsidize a surplus commodity? Why always this baseless assumption that we need to save the ones who can’t or won’t meet their own needs? Over 7.2 billion humans, not exactly a precious and endangered species. We’re not talking about tigers or black rhinos here, where we’ve genuinely got far too few of them, and really should be protecting them. There’s no shortage of people…why must we pay them a “basic income” or do anything else for them when there’s a surplus of them, and all they’ll do is consume more resources we can’t afford to waste?
      Let them die in the gutter. Yes, I’m serious. Let them die, and the sooner, the better. People are not more important than everything else; people are actually a cancer on the planet–a cancer being defined as an organism that grows out of control and kills off everything else in the process. I support letting the ones who can’t or won’t meet their own needs die. Even helping them along to death, if all they’re going to do is be parasites. Again, 7.2 billion…the parasites are not worth saving. This is the way things are in nature, with every other creature on the planet. There are no arguments for human superiority to all those other creatures that are not based in sentimental, illogical, religious garbage.

      • BenTheGuy

        Ummm.. Because they won’t just sit there and die. From a practical standpoint, they’ll band together, find the jerks like you, kill you, and take all your stuff.

        That’s why you can’t just let the bottom of society rot. The rot will kill everyone in the end.

        From a moral standpoint, you’re a cretin, and I hope that you follow your advice till it kills you.

        • Empress de Snark

          LOL, people like you always call rational people like me names–rational, practical people who don’t believe in your sentimental glurge about the value of worthless extra humans.
          Yeah, gosh, we’re always such HORRIBLE people when we don’t care about the special-autistic-retarded-troubled-jailbird-disabled-dyslexic-schizophrenic little hothouse flowers that their parents demand we support with our tax dollars.
          But you know what’s funny? I don’t see you taking out your checkbook to support any of the useless and lazy. Instead, you tell other people to pay for them: the precious little hothouse flowers who can’t work, won’t work, and who will never be smart enough to “band together.” No, when those people “band together,” they do it outside of the local Wal-Mart after Thanksgiving, to use their government checks to buy cheap schlock. That’s all they care about, is buying the stuff they see in commercials. They’ll never band together; they’re too stupid.
          So big meanies like me, who think they’re all parasitic trash, and will always vote to make sure we never give these worthless pieces of garbage a thin dime, will always be perfectly safe. But thanks for playing.
          See, the only difference between you and me is that I fearlessly express the actions that others carry out by omission. Thankfully, nobody’s reaching out to give these people a living on a silver platter, you might observe. And the reason is they know most of humanity is a bunch of worthless, whiny parasites…they just never come right out and say it, like I do.

          • BenTheGuy

            You have a very small imagination. You think it can’t happen here, that things that have happened over and over throughout history won’t happen anymore, that you are special?

            Ever heard of Marie Antoinette? She fancied herself an Empress, too.

  • Ryanisinallofus

    It’s so beyond time to remove the comments section from websites.

  • Guest

    Amazon created no jobs? So I guess it just runs on magic and happy thoughts.

    He claims it destroyed 1 million jobs. While that makes for a good headline it is entirely unsubstantiated and he really just pulled some giant, arbitrary number out of his ass.

    What a jackass.

  • Ayn Rand’s Social Security

    Wow at the Amazon zealotry on display…

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