Martin Harriman of LightSquared; Martin Fichter of HTC and Brad Stone of Bloomberg at Mobile Future Forward

Martin Fichter, the acting president of HTC America, appeared today at the Mobile Future Forward conference in downtown Seattle. And the Bellevue wireless executive shared some interesting insights on everything from Windows Phone 7 to the ongoing wireless patent wars to why college kids — at least in his recent survey at Reed College — don’t think iPhones are cool anymore.

Fichter’s comments about patents were especially interesting given HTC’s ongoing fight with Apple, Google’s planned acquisition of Motorola and the reports out today that HTC would consider buying its own mobile operating system.

Here are some excerpts from the talk, which was moderated by Bloomberg BusinessWeek’s Brad Stone.

On Google’s proposed buy of Motorola: “It is good for the whole ecosystem that Google owns IP that they didn’t own before. That’s very good for the Android ecosystem because maybe everyone was going into this starry-eyed and happy (saying): ‘Ok, there’s a free operating system that we can all work with.’ And we all believed it. We all launched lots of phones, and all of a sudden it turns out that there are forces in the market who just don’t want something free for the consumer. So, OK, let’s go back and try to support that. From that perspective, it is a good thing that Google has access to these patents. I don’t know how Google and Motorola will work together in the future…. We will see how that pans out. For us, as I said before, we will look at our options, and we will look at whatever needs to be done to be successful. The good thing, for us at HTC, is that whatever has happened over the last few years, we’ve usually adjusted faster than the impact of whatever happened.”

On how patents are disrupting the wireless industry: “I think disruption is the perfect word for that because it disrupts my day, every day. The problem we are having as an industry, from a very broad perspective, is that energy that should go into developing new technologies and new user experiences goes into fighting off patent wars. So, think about it. A lot of time, money and energy is just wasted based on these patent wars. I am very much in favor of protecting intellectual property rights …. but we have to, from a philosophical level, relook at what we are doing with the patents so that we protect intellectual property but we stop ourselves from wasting all of this energy that should go into putting better technology into people’s hands.”

The HTC Titan

On Windows Phone 7: “It has shortcomings in some areas, so I am quite happy to see how Mango has improved all of that. I think Windows Phone 7 is probably a bit hampered by the whole energy in the industry right now for 4G. All the carriers are pushing their 4G networks and with Windows Phone 7 not yet supporting that … there is a shortcoming there that is not so much a problem for the end-consumer, but it is a problem for the consumer not being pushed towards Windows because another phone might be more attractive to cell phone carriers.”

On the release of the Windows Phone HTC Titan: “I am very happy about these phones, because the integration of Windows is just beautiful. Integration of Facebook, Twitter, everything works seamlessly. It is hard to describe, but you don’t look for applications anymore, you just think about who you want to communicate to and the channels become obvious.”

On the cloud and mobile: “We all talk a lot about the cloud…. If we change the way we behave and have all of our music — not on our phones anymore but only in the cloud —  I can tell you that networks will have problems.”

On the iPhone 5 hype: “Apple is innovating. Samsung is innovating. We are innovating. Everybody is innovating. And everybody is doing different things for the end consumers. I brought my daughter back to college — she’s down in Portland at Reed — and I talked to a few of the kids on her floor. And none of them has an iPhone because they told me: ‘My dad has an iPhone.’ There’s an interesting thing that’s going on in the market. The iPhone becomes a little less cool than it was. They were carrying HTCs. They were carrying Samsungs. They were even carrying some Chinese manufacture’s devices. If you look at a college campus, Mac Book Airs are cool. iPhones are not that cool anymore. We here are using iPhones, but our kids don’t find them that cool anymore.”

Follow-up: HTC’s Martin Fichter: We don’t ‘want to kill the iPhone’

Previously on GeekWire: Android Wars: Microsoft signs Acer and ViewSonic, as Google arms HTC

Comments

  • dr

    It’s day 445 for the iPhone 4, and it’s still the current top-selling smartphone. This guy has nothing to say about what’s cool.

    • http://twitter.com/cris178 Cristian

      those 445 are adults who are trying to be hip

      • Anonymous

        More like those are adults with money, and not starved college kids that can barely afford some pos low end Android phone that was probably “free” with a 2  year contract.

        • Remington Jackson

          You got a good point, but last time I checked you get an older iphone on ATT for 50. Remember really is not for free you pay them back with those expensive plans

          • http://twitter.com/upright Brent

            But no one wants an older gen iPhone.

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.kramarz John F Kramarz

            the older gen iphone (3GS) is #2 in sales, after the iPhone 4, which is number one.
            If this guy is saying it’s “not cool”, then good. That destroys all the criticisms that people buy iPhones just based on looks, what’s cool, it’s shiny, and all the other crazy stuff haters post online. They all just got flushed away.

          • Bob

            Not ..$3,464,777 in iphone 3GS sales in the last 7 days on eBay!!!

          • http://twitter.com/upright Brent

            But no one wants an older gen iPhone.

          • http://twitter.com/upright Brent

            But no one wants an older gen iPhone.

        • Snidely Whiplash

          If they are going to Reed, a college with NO need based aid, they can afford an iPhone or two or three.

          • http://www.wac6.typepad.com William Carleton

            Good point. Reedies reject iphones because they are consumer consumption devices and original, critical thinkers need to push back.

        • HTCSUCKS

          or you know you all can shut up because you dont know what your talking about i phones last for years and all you stupid copies suck and just because your little android was free dosent mean its good and i love apple and all their things but i got multiple androids and they all suck so HTC can shut up all they care about is money. if android passes apple
          (witch will never happen) they dont care about money they care about getting you what you want its durible fast and its warranty makes it replaceable so just shut up

          • Anonymous

            Obviously you do not know how to be smart. That is why iPhone is the perfect phone for you, it is very dumbed down so your puny brain can process what it is doing. ANDROID ARE BRILLIANT PHONES! On an iPhone you cannot put widgets like an RSS Feed or your Facebook, Twitter on the home screen, and iPhone’s Voice Commands are very limited, where as in with Google Android phones you can use the voice command if you get lazy to send a text message. iPhones are for materialistic people that want to show the world that they have money and a “smartphone”. Google is to show that you are really smart 1 to use their phones 2 to give you the perks of being smart like voice commands or checking the latest Facebook and Twitter statuses on the go from the luxury of your home screen. If you owned multiple Android phones and thought that they sucked, then you’ve not used them to their full potential, meaning you’re a dumb-ass. So learn first how to use one before you judge asshole.
            BTW if you want to represent your phone and make yourself look smart, please learn how to spell and use more commasSpelling Errors Include:
            1. i phones = iPhones
            2. dosent = doesn’t 
            3. durible = durable
            Because if you’re going to go on an english site and criticize something you have to know how to write in english.

            So you can shut up ok, dumb dumb!

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TZQMCGSOSIZ3KTCFBPHWF23ASQ John Que

             Sounds like what you really want is a Windows phone 7 with Mango, as it not only does all the above but is more stable with a better music experience and much better voice integration.

          • http://www.facebook.com/krenotenze Patrick Tobin

            Realistically you are in the wrong here. Many iPhones are broken and refused warranty on a regular basis. HTC and Samsung are doing amazing things with their phones and Apple consistently follows suit with features that are also very good. I have used multiple Android phones and iOS phones, heck even Symbian and Windows Phone 7. They all do their job very well.

            If you were unhappy with your Android phones I have to assume you either do not like them principle or your experience was with a lower end phone, which should not be compared with an iPhone since higher end should be compared with higher end. Not some 80 dollar cricket phone you might pick up running 2.1 on a 500Mhz processor.

            As far as all they care about is money argument, that’s all ANY company typically worries about. Without cash flow they cannot continue to provide products to their customers. Without new products they cannot compete, and without competing they cannot make money, and the circle begins anew.

            Right now as a whole the Android market is surpassing Apple’s iOS market share by a ever growing margin. I would not be quick to dismiss it’s validity. Many features started on Android and were copied to iOS, many features started on iOS and were copied to Andoid, MANY features started on Palm and were copied to both.

        • HTCSUCKS

          or you know you all can shut up because you dont know what your talking about i phones last for years and all you stupid copies suck and just because your little android was free dosent mean its good and i love apple and all their things but i got multiple androids and they all suck so HTC can shut up all they care about is money. if android passes apple
          (witch will never happen) they dont care about money they care about getting you what you want its durible fast and its warranty makes it replaceable so just shut up

        • HTC SUCKS

          starving college kids well you probally dont know what the hell your talking about if you got yourself in that situation

      • Hemnebob

        i don’t care what or who is hip.

        so your theory is wack.

    • Nargg

      Iphone is the top single phone, but far behind Android as a whole.  Definately lost it’s cool.  Going to take a while to loose all of it though, but definately warming trend in the future.

      • Anonymous

        Until major companies stop thinking iOS first when building apps and putting the far larger Android market second, the iPhone will always have a mind-share lead among consumers.
        I personally use (and prefer) Windows Phone 7 so I’m not saying this as an Android fanboy.

        • MobileTitan

          Nope – sounds like you’re saying it as someone who works for Microsoft. Windows Phone 7 would be lovely if it didn’t have a problem with battery life. All of the WinPho7 devices, to date, have a problem making it through the day.

          • Anonymous

             FUD!! Used WP7 on two different devices with different battery sizes, even with heavy uses both last past the working day!!!

          • Anonymous

             FUD!! Used WP7 on two different devices with different battery sizes, even with heavy uses both last past the working day!!!

          • Anonymous

            I know a few MS employees but am not one of them. I am an avid non-Apple fan though, just my preference.

            As Bugbob said though, the battery life comment is disputable. My HTC Arrive gets far better battery life than my Epic 4G ever did even after installing applications to manage power and kill background tasks (should users really have to do that?) I got a full day of normal use to include playing music over Bluetooth both ways in my hour long commute with no problems out of the box. It’s even better with Mango installed.

          • consumer

            state facts about the battery life u troll the battery lasts all day and there isnt a problem with the power management in windows phone, i currently have mango rtm installed on my focus and i have no problem lasting the entire day. even before then i had no problem. so stop trollin’

          • consumer

            state facts about the battery life u troll the battery lasts all day and there isnt a problem with the power management in windows phone, i currently have mango rtm installed on my focus and i have no problem lasting the entire day. even before then i had no problem. so stop trollin’

          • http://twitter.com/penglown Christine

            What kind of phone were you using? They should generally last a week on one full charge.

      • MobileTitan

        Yeah – I’d love my company to have some of that “lost it’s cool” like Apple. Are you serious?

      • http://twitter.com/airbagmoments airbag moments

        You mean “lose”, but judging from the rest of your post I’m thinking spelling and grammar are “definately” not big priorities for you.

        Hint: When the comment editor underlines a word in red that means it’s probably not spelled right…

        • Roddyboy08

          When you are quoting someone else you don’t have to worry about the grammar smart a$$

        • Roddyboy08

          When you are quoting someone else you don’t have to worry about the grammar smart a$$

        • Anonymous

          “lose,” <= the comma goes inside the quotation mark.

          There's no sense in being on a high horse with broken legs. Next time, don't be such an assh*le.

          • Cwxj415

            Not necessarily.   When the punctuation is part of the quotation, then the comma goes before the quotation mark.  But when it is an individual word being quoted, as part of a larger sentence, where the punctuation marks is not part of the quote (as above), then it is perfectly acceptible to put the comma AFTER the quotation mark.

            Just saying.

          • Anonymous

            Acceptable, yes… if you don’t care about the rules. :)

        • http://www.facebook.com/Mprior1224 Mike Prior

          So the reality is, you have nothing intelligent to say so your going to mock this persons spelling and grammar. If it upsets you  that much, kill yourself. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/Mprior1224 Mike Prior

        Android targets a much larger market with Apple untill recently being restricted to At&T only. Also, how many models of android phones are out there?Hundreds? On all kids of carriers? AT&T Verizon, Sprint, T Mobil, Hell even non contract companies have droid phones. There are cheap ones and there are expensive ones, so in reality you really cannot compare the two (Android/Apple I phones). Apples new phones are set at one price and apples older phones are at a discounted price. And as far as I phones not being “cool” any more, will someone please ask him why then are HTC phones that are currently being litigated for patent violations, are a clone of the i-phone? And tell the millions of Americans that will be getting rid of their droid phones for the new Iphone 5 or whatever the hell its going to be called now, that Iphones are no longer “cool”. AND who says “cool” any more. Its un-cool. Fu#kin old people.

        • ANDROID SUCKS DICK

          YES YOU CAN BECAUSE APPLE SKIPS SELLING THE SHIT PHONES FOR 5$ AND THEY MAKE A PHONE 1000X BETTER THAN ANY ANDROID AND IT IS A REASONABLY PRICE LIKE ANDROID IS A OS LIKE WINDOWS ITS IBMD COMPATIBLE WITCH MEANS IT WILL GET VIRUSES AND IT IS BUILT TO FAIL  WITHEN 2 YEARS THEY WANT YOU TO SPEND MONE ON YOU PHONE JUST LIKE COMPUTERS YOU HAVE SOMES ONE BUILD YOU A COMPUTER BECAUSE THEY ARE BULT TO FAIL BUT YOU CANT HAVE SOME ONE BUILD YOU A PHONE SO APPLE MAKES A GREAT PHONE FOR YOU TO BUY WITHOUT THE SHIT 5$ PHONES 

          • Anonymous

            AGAIN WITH YOU… As I said iPhone is for materialistic losers, for people who want to belong.  iPhone have made no changes to their iOS. While Android is open source and phone companies hire developers to make the OS their own, like adding their own personal touch. The OS is different with every phone. Android wants to sell to all types of people, from the poor to the rich. While as I said earlier the iPhone is made to make you look materialistic, and probably for a loser like you belong since you’re a loner. Android comes in different shapes and sizes to fit different styles of people, take Japan for example, they have an Android flip phone. But back to the point, some Android phone company *coughs* Samsung, are built to last because they may be made of plastic all over but they are very durable, trust my word.

            Spelling Errors Include but are not limited to:
            1. WITHEN = WITHIN
            2. WITCH = WHICH
            3. MONE = MONEY
            4. SOMES ONE = SOMEONE
            5. BULT = BUILT

            Please, please use commas and periods and learn to type in English.

    • Jeff

      Forget cool, it’s subjective, hard chip set facts and OP facts win in the long run. HTC puts out nearly consistent solid products while apple worries about the little things. Like the razor the iPhone’s days are truly numbered

      • http://ListWithTom.com/ Thomas A B Johnson

        I miss my razor!

      • Anonymous

        Poor Iphone… It has only at least 7000 days to go before it lose its lead. 

        Jeff, you could rejoice by then because you were right and say “I told you so!”.

      • Anonymous

        wow you are truly delusional!

      • http://www.facebook.com/Mprior1224 Mike Prior

        How long did the razor last? I dont think people were through their contracts before something better/newer/more exciting came out. The I-phone has been a consistent player in the market for the last 4 years. and a leading innovator which every company strives to be like. Hate all you want you cant ignore the fact that Apple started this whole thing and they will most likely be around to finish it. Especially when other companies are putting out phones with the main goal in mind is to try to one up Apple.

    • http://www.releasedates.co www.releasedates.co

      Whether they choose Apple or Android, I think “cool” people just do what they want despite what others say. 

      • Evensteven

        Someone finally said it right. People trying to be cool are not cool. Cool people do what works for them and don’t care what anyone thinks about it.

  • johnhcook

    Just wondering if anyone else caught the reference to Reed College in Portland, and what why that’s significant as it relates to Apple and the iPhone? :)

    • Yoda

      lol, Steve Jobs was an alum of Reed College ;)

      • johnhcook

        Nailed it. 

        • http://www.facebook.com/SickHippie Brian Wolfe

          Also, Martin’s daughter attends Reed College – which, incidentally, is about 8 blocks from my house.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Mprior1224 Mike Prior

            Congratulations? 

        • http://www.facebook.com/SickHippie Brian Wolfe

          Also, Martin’s daughter attends Reed College – which, incidentally, is about 8 blocks from my house.

        • Alextheukrainian

          Didn’t Martin hear? Reed hasn’t been cool since 1972 =)

          • Anonymous

            Then again you’re a Uki from Ukraine so you know nothing about Reed!

  • zato

    “The iPhone becomes a little less cool than it was. They were carrying HTCs…” 
    Sure… A clone from arrogant criminals like HTC is “cool”. 

  • http://how-to-score.com How To Score

    Hi’s iPhone 5 story is absolutely made up!

    • Anonymous

      A report today says that iOS makes up something like 70% of the mobile internet traffic at Harvard with Android between 10% – 20%. I would guess Reed would be similar (both are expensive, well regarded liberal arts colleges) and the claims here just wishful thinking. But who knows? Maybe the hipster vibe of Portlandia could change.all that.

      • http://www.facebook.com/SickHippie Brian Wolfe

        Mobile traffic is not the same as market share.  Keep in mind Android users are more likely to use WiFi instead of their data connections.  Additionally, the iPad registers as iOS as well – I would venture a guess that the vast majority of Harvard’s student body has an iPad since, just like every college, the bookstore is fully stocked with Apple products.  When your bookstore purchases go to your bill instead of paid in cash, you’re more likely to impulse buy something like, say, an iPad.

        Now, to be fair, while the differences between west and east coast are night and day, the difference between Portland and the rest of the world are universes apart.  There’s a lot more than just Hipster vibes at work here – there’s an intellectualism here that I’ve only seen in Oxford or Cambridge (in the UK, just to be clear).

        • http://www.facebook.com/thuiny Tania Huiny

          And market share includes unit sold, and so far the iPhone leads further ahead than androids device. Most reports claimed androids shipped (to retailers) much more but that does not translate to units sold.

  • http://ListWithTom.com/ Thomas A B Johnson

    “My dad has an iPhone.” That Dad also has the money to pay the family plan so Junior can have a cheap Android phone.

    • Anonymous

      So true!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002643923146 Chris Pascal

    All the carriers are pushing their 4g networks and with WIndows Phone 7 not yet supporting that? Are you kidding me?!?!  Mr. “HTC Boss” is just jealous that their ugly HTC Windows phones haven’t sold as well as Samsung’s.  Samsung just announced the Samsung Focus S which is a Windows Phone and will support 4G!!! HTC just announced the HTC Titan which is a Windows Phone that DOESN’T support 4G.  Sorry “HTC Boss” but your HTC Titan is guaranteed to fail because who who in their right mind would buy anything but a Samsung Focus S Windows Phonce since it is the only Windows Phone that supports 4G!

    • Anonymous

      I just bought a standard Samsung Focus S for $195.00 off contract. I will live without the “4G” because I don’t want to renew a 2 year contract anymore. By the way, I am in my right mind.

    • Anonymous

      I just bought a standard Samsung Focus S for $195.00 off contract. I will live without the “4G” because I don’t want to renew a 2 year contract anymore. By the way, I am in my right mind.

    • Anonymous

      I just bought a standard Samsung Focus S for $195.00 off contract. I will live without the “4G” because I don’t want to renew a 2 year contract anymore. By the way, I am in my right mind.

    • julian.winter

      Maybe  because 4G is not widely available (certainly not here in the UK)  So people will make a judgement as to which device is ‘better’.  4G is not the be all and end all, when some of us still struggle with intermittent 3G coverage.  

  • Karl

    When the HTC acting CEO learns how to speak in coherent English sentences which make sense, I will listen to what he has to say. Most of what he says is a mixture of jargon and buzz words. This type of off the cuff wordsmithing does not bode well for his company.

    • http://www.facebook.com/SickHippie Brian Wolfe

      At least he doesn’t curse like a sailor, which puts him ahead of the (now ex) CEO of Yahoo.

    • http://www.facebook.com/SickHippie Brian Wolfe

      At least he doesn’t curse like a sailor, which puts him ahead of the (now ex) CEO of Yahoo.

    • Anonymous

      That is why the iPhone is perfect for you. :)

  • DF

    Phooey…. iPhones rock cause they just work and if the Air is popular, the iPhone is too. It is less about the single device and more about the entire solution.

    • Anonymous

      I like Apple as much as the other guy does, because I love my MacBook Pro but iPhone is just a NO! End of story. You have to be smart to use it, “Warning: This phone is smart, dumb people beware!”

  • S McCoy

    Wishful thinking re: iPhone coolness. “I talked to a few of the kids on her floor”… great market research.

  • S McCoy

    Wishful thinking re: iPhone coolness. “I talked to a few of the kids on her floor”… great market research.

  • https://plus.google.com/108662718822048224321/posts David A Fenton

    Maybe because the latest iPhone is over a year old. Every other phonemaker should just sit out next quarter because it’s going to be an iPhone 5 landslide. Intentional walk baby.

  • https://plus.google.com/108662718822048224321/posts David A Fenton

    Maybe because the latest iPhone is over a year old. Every other phonemaker should just sit out next quarter because it’s going to be an iPhone 5 landslide. Intentional walk baby.

  • https://plus.google.com/108662718822048224321/posts David A Fenton

    Maybe because the latest iPhone is over a year old. Every other phonemaker should just sit out next quarter because it’s going to be an iPhone 5 landslide. Intentional walk baby.

  • https://plus.google.com/108662718822048224321/posts David A Fenton

    Maybe because the latest iPhone is over a year old. Every other phonemaker should just sit out next quarter because it’s going to be an iPhone 5 landslide. Intentional walk baby.

  • Anonymous

    I bet he is upset about the patent wars, they do not create they copy, Patent war is a pain in the neck to them.

  • Anon

    So a hallway full of kids that can’t afford an iPhone is reason to make a blanket statement that “iPhones aren’t cool anymore?”  What a crock.  No wonder HTC sucks…the moron leading the charge has no clue.  Look dipstick…if *EVERYONE* had an iPhone then it most certainly would NOT be cool, so I’m ok not being part of the masses.  Those peeps can keep their Android and WinMo POS phones just like their PC’s.  I don’t buy a phone because it’s *cool* – I buy it because it works for me and meets my needs. Yet another shingin example of how the rest of the industry doesn’t get design and why their products are inferior.

    • http://www.facebook.com/SickHippie Brian Wolfe

      Reed College is a private college in Portland, Oregon.  Tuition runs roughly $27,000 a semester.  Your “can’t afford” statement is idiotic, which you would know already had you bothered to do a search for “reed college portland tuition”.

      So why don’t you do yourself a favor and get down off your high horse before you fall and hurt yourself?

      • http://profiles.google.com/powers74 michael powers

        I went to a school that cost 27K a year, so let me tell you how it works, Brian; We took student loans out, ate tuna fish for four years and used a $20 PAYG phone. Just because you go to a great school doesn’t mean you’re rolling in it. But I sure as s#!t have an iPhone now.

    • Anonymous

      I have a iPhone 4 for personal use and a htc evo for business. I have to pull the battery out of that pos everyday because it freezes up. I have never had to reboot my iPhone. Plus the apps are so much better! By the way my dad has an evo, they ain’t that cool!

  • Jim98122x

    Fortunately, I don’t give a rat’s ass whether my phone is “cool” or not. I’ll leave that for the college kids to worry about, bless their hearts.

    Look… I’m 52 years old. It’s not like changing phones is going to make me cool in any college kid’s eyes anyway, no matter what it is. And I’m ok with that.

  • dvdavis04@mac.com

    And when the youngsters grow up and have real world money of their own, they will choose value and purpose over adolescent ‘cool’ every time. That’s just the way it goes.

    • Anonymous

      but what makes you think, they’ll choose the iPhone?

  • dvdavis04@mac.com

    And when the youngsters grow up and have real world money of their own, they will choose value and purpose over adolescent ‘cool’ every time. That’s just the way it goes.

  • johnhcook

    Fichter offered some other comments about Apple and how HTC is different. I’ll try to get some time and add those when I get a chance. His point was that HTC is not trying to copy Apple’s iPhone success but do something truly different. 

    • Alextheukrainian

      Thanks, John, but what else would we expect him to say? “Oh yeah, we copied iPhone btw.” :) Let’s see… on one hand I have words… on another I have actions… which should I believe? Hmmm

  • johnhcook

    Fichter offered some other comments about Apple and how HTC is different. I’ll try to get some time and add those when I get a chance. His point was that HTC is not trying to copy Apple’s iPhone success but do something truly different. 

  • Fool

    I laugh because (a) teenagers are a small part of the demographic. (b) teenagers don’t have $ to spend on apps, or willingness to spend on apps, stolen good, purchased not.   Thank you will stay with iPhone/iPad apps as “Dad” always pays for the apps

  • Anonymous

    Should be very interesting to see how that all turns out. Wow.

    being-anon.at.tc

  • Vico

    Reed College students are not cool.

  • BigAl

    I have to disagree. I teach and my students are gaga over iPhones. It’s their first choice – by far.

  • AlexTheUkrainian

    “We all launched lots of phones, and all of a sudden it turns out that there are forces in the market who just don’t want something free for the consumer.” – is that why your phones cost exactly the same as iPhone when they launch? Last I checked, your “something” cost just as much to consumers as their “something”. In fact, more, b/c it doesn’t hold value as well so resale doesn’t have as good return.

    “I think disruption is the perfect word for that because it disrupts my day, every day.” – yes, that’s what happens when you break the law. It’s like if I stole a TV from the neighbor and then complained about the law for “disrupting my day”. Stop stealing IP and you’ll have no disruptions. Steve Jobs, you see, has worry-free days in this regard. And if they infringe on something, they have no problem just admitting and licensing. 

    “A lot of time, money and energy is just wasted based on these patent wars. I am very much in favor of protecting intellectual property rights …” – correct, a lot of time and money. But what’s the source of that? Apple? Cmon, they’re just defending what’s theirs. Had Google not infringed on a gazillion patents, Samsung not stole Apple’s designs/ads/packaging, etc. that time and money would be a lot less. But as it stands, would you not protect something that belongs to you by law if you were in Apple’s shoes?

    “..but we stop ourselves from wasting all of this energy that should go into putting better technology into people’s hands” – absolutely agree with you there. Go ahead, sir. No one’s stopping you from inventing your own mobile OS with your own implementation of the core features. If you’d like to revolutionize smartphone industry again – the doors are open. We’ll all support you, even, as long as you don’t steal and infringe. Just like we supported Apple. Until then, stop trying to make a victim (from patent law perspective) into a villain.

    • Anonymous

      But see this is why Apple is putting a hold on the patent wars with Google Android and Motorola, because really Apple wants to get money from all the phone companies that look almost like it. But they are really after Google, because Android is Google’s own OS. But if they sue Motorola now, they are also going against Google, and Google can say, “Fine, but if we have to do this for you, you will have to give up YouTube, that is owned by us (Google) and Google Maps that the iPhone uses.” That is why they have not gone after Google in the first place and are putting a hold until next April and August of year 2012. BTW reason why HTC is selling for almost the same price is because they have to pay patent fees to Apple, had Apple not request they do, they would be selling for a consumer friendly price. I’m more of a Samsung fan than HTC, but Apple has done the same to Samsung.

  • Guest

    Even suggest that Apple may have lost its cool in any way and 50 trolls suddenly show up on this blog to defend Apple.

    • http://profiles.google.com/alextheukrainian Alex Novosad

      Don’t forget to count yourself, since you’re here…

    • Anonymous

      Speaking of trolls….here you are.

  • Larry

    Last thing any joker from HTC should be talking about it “cool”.   Atleast the iPhone actually works.  HTC should fix the myriad of bugs in its phones and stop releasing a whole bunch of crap models that differ only with the placement of the on/off switch. 

  • Anonymous

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  • Stephen

    “it turns out that there are forces in the market who just don’t want something free for the consumer”

    Right so if I create a website that lets people download pirated software then this guy from HTC will defend me giving consumers something for free?

    What would this guy be saying if I started a company, made smartphones and just copied HTC Sense onto them……………..different story then.

    Android was created by stealing other companies patents.

    • Anonymous

      I agree with what you’re saying, but that is also why the Android is better, because they took what Apple made and made it better. But Android is not HTC’s OS, and that’s where most of you go wrong by blaming a phone company because of the OS. Android is Google’s but Apple does not want to go after Google directly because they’re in partnership, and Apple will lose. Google owns a search engine, a navigation system (iPod Touch, iPhones, iPads use it) a popular video site called Youtube (again iPod Touch, iPhones, iPads use it), an invite only social networking site, Picasa, Gmail and soon their own Chrome OS for laptops, netbooks, ultrabooks and etc. So Apple doesn’t want to claim defeat just yet, so as I said earlier, they’re holding off on the court room because they want to gear up to take Google down.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Prachi-Desai/100002704672517 Prachi Desai

    Great, good move from HTC to get attention of Oldies..Will it work, i don’t think so.

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  • Anonymous

    “We here are using iPhones, but our kids don’t find them that cool anymore.”

    So the boss of HTC in N. America is using an iPhone?  Doh!

  • Anonymous

    What a ridiculous man, total sour grapes.  He’s in no position to be so condescending to a company that is beating the bejesus out of his.  Fix the short batter life, stick to things you need to do.  And, a sample from one private college in Oregon is not indicative of what is “cool” or not.

  • Anonymous
  • Xico

    iphones are for girls and fagotes! Lol that’s cool

  • Xico

    iphones are for girls and fagotes! Lol that’s cool

  • Xico

    iphones are for girls and fagotes! Lol that’s cool

  • Hemnebob

    sure, if you are pc then you won’t think iphone is cool…but this person believes that if he makes the statement then people will believe him.

    sorry bub…
    i love my iphone and am a mac person from the get go…
    you just hate us, don’t you?

    • Guest

      sorry to burst your bubble, but… a simple test of either the idiocy of the consumers, or the power of brainwashing apple has, is that many people now believe that apple computers (macs) and personal computers are different. this is like saying that, say an iphone is an iphone, and a winpho7 is a phone. a mac is a PC. any PC, regardless of its OS (which, btw there are a lot more than two of. the most popular of which, if you include every aspect of the subject, is linux. macs, androids, iphones, even various forms of the base linux, *nix, etc are all based off linux.) its just branding. i mean, ill hate on windows (almost) as much as ill rag on the mac OS each as a whole, but i would much prefer windows xp over any mac OS. ill agree that vista is shit, and 7 is just a patch, but i would much prefer functionality over ‘ease of use’ or as i call it ‘dumbing down’. 

      as far as phones go, androids are definitely the way to go if you KNOW how to use phones. but for my father, for example, i suggested that ‘ease of use’ is the way to go. i’d never even touch an iphone, after ive had my first taste of apple. no real ‘innovation’, just adding a couple features every few months as people become accustomed to the limited range they already have. shit customer service, no warranty honor, and VERY limited phone itself. as stated before, iphones use a variation of linux, this one is a very limited and ‘locked down’ version of linux. if you want a billion of the same app, a phone that just copies trends and features (copy/paste not included until the 3rd incarnation? the joke they call ‘multitasking’ not introduced until the 4th?) come on.

      If you actually believe in this company for anything but following trends, delaying features every other phone has, and being a fad, and slowly creeping its way into a niche, i sincerely pity you. its only a matter of time before developers realize that android is MUCH easier and reaches a wider target audience, and is nor nearly as limited, as well as being cheaper, because the dev. tools are just programming languages, not a to-purchase dev. kit.

      for the record, im not just arbitrarily hating on apple. i dont judge without experience, im just posting my regrettable experience with apple, and the other companies listed.

      • http://profiles.google.com/alextheukrainian Alex Novosad

        Brief to save reading time, not to be rude. Your experience is totally yours and no one can validate that. Having said that, here is mine as well as some comments: 
        – no one said mac and PC are same
        – just coz linux is at the core, doesn’t make it “just” branding in any way, form, or fashion. It’s the experience that matters. For OS is built for user experience, not for list of specs/features. 
        – androids are not for people who KNOW how to use phones. Androids are for people who don’t mind spending time figuring out how to use phones. 
        – no real innovation? Are you speaking about iOS being on the market for 2 years before first Android, and first Android copying all iOS features? Re-check your facts, please.
        – joke “multitasking”… yes, b/c Android can show 2 videos on same screen. And even if it could, yep, I’d use that every day… /sarcasm. iPhone has all the multitasking one needs – it runs background threads and kills the rest of the app. B/c, you know, users can’t SEE the app anyway, so why run it?!
        – delaying features every other phone has – indeed, b/c things like smooth scrolling, rubber-band effect, high-performing GPU, retina display, gorilla glass, thinness, etc. etc. etc. are all features other phones had before iPhone…. not. 
        – creeping a way into a niche? Yes, b/c constantly outperforming smartphone industry in sales is “creeping into a niche” instead of “creeping into mainstream”. You do realize that THREE models of iPhone have 50% share of many dozens of Android models? 
        – being a fad: that’s a personal attack irrelevant to the discussion
        – developers should realize Android is MUCH easier? Yes, I can tell you never developed a piece of software for Android. I’m a software engineer, iOS is MUCH easier to develop for if you learn objective C language. Try testing your Android app – HA! Good luck w that.
        – Cheaper development? Are you from Mars? Do you realize the amount of time, code, and resources it takes to test and optimize your app for the gazillion android devices, hardware specs, and OS versions that are out there?! Development TIME is THE most expensive resource, not any licensing costs. The $100 for Apple’s developer program is pocket money no one gives a crap about. It’s absolutely nothing compared to extra time you need to spend for Android development. 
        – Shit customer service? Maybe you had bad one, I can’t argue that. But I had an iPod touch with *sometimes* sticking home button (it started doing that after owning iPod for months), took it to Apple store, they reproduced the issue ONCE after dozens of attempts, and I had brand-new iPod Touch 10 minutes later (even though old one had scratches, etc.). No warranty honor, you say? I didn’t even have AppleCare, just standard 1-year warranty. 
        – VERy limited phone? Oh my, not even gonna go there. Yes, OS are different, Android has some features iOS doesn’t, and vice versa. But to say it’s very limited is completely off-base. A magazine can be filled with comparison though so not gonna go there. But I don’t feel my iPhone to be very limited at all, especially with iOS 5.

      • http://profiles.google.com/alextheukrainian Alex Novosad

        I meant, no one can INvalidate* that..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q4OZK5HH4FQTWTX4OHTPHIQVFY ironwalker118

    So he  bases his business model on talking with a few kids at his daughters dorm.  Sounds to me him just a “hater” and the i-phone 5 will be sick

  • http://twitter.com/sickbastard sickbastard

    A CEO who’s opinion of the market is based on asking a few questions of maybe a half-dozen college students. There’s a CEO I want to lead my company.

  • Bob

    “We don’t want to kill the iPhone” probably not as HTC will not have anyone to copy off.
    I just got back from France – maybe somebody there did not get the memo. All I saw was iPhones.

  • http://www.TechedOn.com TechedOn

    lol – get comments from HTC boss. You know what kids like ven more than phones? APPS!! The ecosystem is much more important to most people than the hardware. 

  • Tonyspase

    I gave my daughter an iPhone because it’s simple and straight forward, I wouldn’t trust a child with a beautiful piece of hardware like my galaxy s2.
    Then again I wouldn’t trust a child to drive my super charged porsche ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jimmy-Logan/100002948719413 Jimmy Logan

    Want to sell your iPhone / HTC for cash? Goto SellArena.com – They will buy your used iPhones for cash. High Payout, Free shipping to send your phones, Quick Payments. 

  • Jimmy

    He didn’t say they weren’t cool anymore, he said they weren’t THAT cool anymore. A big difference. Poor journalism.

  • Guest

    There is nothing better than iPhone anyway and especially crappy windows mobiles.

  • Dyamond486

    Apple had the iPhone on ATT at one time and it was the top selling phone. Now its on VZW its still the top selling phone. It’s taking Google to put out android on different handset companies and carriers that would be the only way for Google to compete. Google tried with the Nexus One on HTC which was a fail. Google was trying to be to much like Apple with the whole Google store. Apple remain the best out there.. 

  • http://profiles.google.com/wishbone234 Wish Bone

    What is an HTC again?

  • Tj_nelson

    Yes, he’s right because I remember the lines of people, the extra security, Malls reshaping traffic flows around Apple stores for each of the new product offerings to date.  Ya Apple iphone is just a memory.  (sarcasm)

  • Tj_nelson

    Yes, he’s right because I remember the lines of people, the extra security, Malls reshaping traffic flows around Apple stores for each of the new product offerings to date.  Ya Apple iphone is just a memory.  (sarcasm)

  • Tj_nelson

    Yes, he’s right because I remember the lines of people, the extra security, Malls reshaping traffic flows around Apple stores for each of the new product offerings to date.  Ya Apple iphone is just a memory.  (sarcasm)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TZQMCGSOSIZ3KTCFBPHWF23ASQ John Que

    Interesting Comment
    “On Windows Phone 7: ”It has shortcomings in some areas,
    so I am quite happy to see how Mango has improved all of that. I think
    Windows Phone 7 is probably a bit hampered by the whole energy in the
    industry right now for 4G. ”

    As it has been reported on multiple sites and has been confirmed that Mango is capable of supporting 4G.

    Example: http://www.cnbc.com/id/44485556/ 

    above site calls out the Titan as being 4G.  Does this Executive not even know the capabilities of his own product.  If so, very sad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TZQMCGSOSIZ3KTCFBPHWF23ASQ John Que

    Interesting Comment
    “On Windows Phone 7: ”It has shortcomings in some areas,
    so I am quite happy to see how Mango has improved all of that. I think
    Windows Phone 7 is probably a bit hampered by the whole energy in the
    industry right now for 4G. ”

    As it has been reported on multiple sites and has been confirmed that Mango is capable of supporting 4G.

    Example: http://www.cnbc.com/id/44485556/ 

    above site calls out the Titan as being 4G.  Does this Executive not even know the capabilities of his own product.  If so, very sad.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TZQMCGSOSIZ3KTCFBPHWF23ASQ John Que

    Interesting Comment
    “On Windows Phone 7: ”It has shortcomings in some areas,
    so I am quite happy to see how Mango has improved all of that. I think
    Windows Phone 7 is probably a bit hampered by the whole energy in the
    industry right now for 4G. ”

    As it has been reported on multiple sites and has been confirmed that Mango is capable of supporting 4G.

    Example: http://www.cnbc.com/id/44485556/ 

    above site calls out the Titan as being 4G.  Does this Executive not even know the capabilities of his own product.  If so, very sad.

  • Rj

    You’re either going to choose one platform over the other based on preference and need. I actually own a Verizon HTC Thunderbolt but when someone ask me which is better I always say the strengths and weaknesses of both platforms. At the end of the conversation, I usually tell the person to try both out and choose the phone that suits your needs. Both are great phones.

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